He made use of telekinesis in their fight, except he didn't try to destroy Venamis with the Force. That implies Venamis is powerful enough to not get destroyed since that'd be by far the simplest method for Plagueis to win. Venamis also used Concealment with relative success against Plagueis, so it's plausible that he's comparably powerful.
I get what you're trying to say and I'm not saying Venamis is fodder, but there is no way that he would survive Plagueis' all out attacks.
Plagueis was challenged and he wanted to prove himself to his master(well to himself in a way). I believe he wanted to defeat Venamis in a duel for that reason and perhaps also cause it would be a more quiet way of doing it as Plagueis didn't want to get much attention at that point.
Nox had no problem fighting Malgus, he won't have a problem with Venamis as well. Especially since Venamis is not as fast as Plagueis.
His master was already dead at that point, lol.
And if he made use of telekinesis, it meant he was willing to integrate the Force into the duel, but he wasn't capable of using it to destroy Venamis.
Venamis was similarly fast to Plagueis, lol, and similarly agile. On top of that, he's more technically skilled than Nox, and Nox had aid against Malgus. Nox isn't beating Venamis.
Which is why I said to himself in a way? Dueling/martial arts etc. were all his master's game and he looked down at those things. Venamis was specifically trained by Tenebrous to defeat Plageuis so killing Venamis in a duel is a symbolic victory of his revolutionary ways against his master's old-fashioned mentality. At least, that's how I perceive it.
So your argument is that Venamis is on Plagueis' level in the force cause Plagueis severed a tree branch while fighting him? That by itself is in noway a proof of what you're claiming. This is reaching at its best.
So? Nox is similarly fast to Malgus who fought Aryn Leneer(whose speed feats are superior to Plagueis at this point of the novel).
How is Aryn faster than Plagueis who, along with Venamis, ran and fought with such speed that their duel appeared to be lightning streaking through the forest understory? Plagueis also collapsed rubble on Tenebrous so quickly the latter almost didn't notice what was happening, fought armies alongside Tenebrous without being hit, and moved fast enough to appear as a blur to droids that could easily dodge blaster fire.
Aryn using a version of Moving Meditation could utilise milliseconds as if they were minutes. She percieved everything around her as if time itself had frozen. Her shipmate could see her doing multiple things at once in several different places. That is long before Aryn starts using the Dark Side to become stronger. Malgus still kicked her ass, before his DS oneness and long before his prime.
Yeh I would think that surpasses Plagueis and Venamis appearing as red lightning across a field.
Originally posted by AncientPowerExactly why she surpasses him in speed. 👆
Aryn using a version of Moving Meditation could utilise milliseconds as if they were minutes. She percieved everything around her as if time itself had frozen. Her shipmate could see her doing multiple things at once in several different places. That is long before Aryn starts using the Dark Side to become stronger. Malgus still kicked her ass, before his DS oneness and long before his prime.Yeh I would think that surpasses Plagueis and Venamis appearing as red lightning across a field.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Anyone want to quote and cite the relevant passages?
The passage is a bit long so you can check it out in Legend's RT. Its the second speed feat.