Originally posted by WildBantha88
The battle will begin and end with Telepathy. Cronal will immediately try and mind rape Revan and the battle will more or less be the two of them looking at each other. If Revan overcome s the telepathy then Cronal is nothing more than an old man in a hoverchair, and Cronal will die. So the question is can Revan beat a Cronal scale mental assault? It's a good question, Cronal has cast telepathy on a planetary scale, driving his entire army insane, and has forcefully ripped knowledge out of powerful Sith spirits, but on the other hand Revan has had a TP battle with Vitiate. My conclusion is that Revan would win but it would be the second toughest TP battle he has ever been in
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Yes sir that is him. He was a prodigy at Alchemy and that's where Cronal learned his alchemyEDIT: the beings that control the Meltmassif were called Melters
Yeah just looked up some stuff for him, transforming his own heart into a crystal, pretty nice and bringing back the dead
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Given we are discussing the guy who willed himself back from the dead, held his own against the Dread and Vitiate for 300 years, and could successfully harness the power of the Star Forge and Malachor, he's going to be laughing at Cronal's attempt.
Cronal go kamikaze. We already seen powerfull darkside user user force storm powers beyond their control in desperate situation...
+Dark = The force in it's cosmic form mostly... But You know Rhand sorcerer the force come from living things thus failurable thing with an end, we cannot even conceiv that the endless Dark doom of all living things come from there blablabla...
"Revan = Vitiate + Dread Masters in TP. Cronal stands no chance."
Since the begining of mandalorian war XDXDXDXDXDXD Revan troll via overpower since 2001. His first know TK feat was creating illusion base on post cognition and share it on mass scale via TP.....
For Revan things are simple the force simply obey his will....
"Though when did he rip knowledge out of Dark side spirits?"
Hum not impressive Revan was able too...
As you see their abilities would be better use in a kaggath rather in direct fighting.. The match would be even more awsome...
Originally posted by DarthAnt66you did see that I said Revan would win right?
Given we are discussing the guy who willed himself back from the dead, held his own against the Dread and Vitiate for 300 years, and could successfully harness the power of the Star Forge and Malachor, he's going to be laughing at Cronal's attempt.
But considering Cronal cast his TP on a planetary scale and has cast his TP through hyper-space which makes it sub dimensional and have a range of light years, no, its not going to be easy for Revan to win. Revan will win but not easily
Originally posted by NewGuy01you miss the point. He has to mind dom Melters in order to physically cut out the troopers brains which ended in insanity. Controlling Meltmassif is a telepathic feat and he his insanity feat is on a planetary scale. Each isolated price of Meltmassif would need already one Melter in it in order for Cronal to exert control over the substance. That makes it an army of Melters being mind dominated.
That's not really the same as planetary telepathy. He wasn't able to influence their minds directly on a planetary scale; rather he was able to do by using an alchemical material. He can't do it without Revan's body being lined with meltmassif. It's hardly relevant in a standard fighting scenario.
I may make a blog explaining this all better tomorrow on CV
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Controlling Meltmassif is a telepathic feat
I'm not entirely sure this is true. Isn't it also the case that Cronal can only manipulate Meltmassif because his nervous system is lined with it?
The meltmassif itself and his application of it was more contributive to the Shadow of Mindor feats than his own power.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
So, what are Cronal's unprepped feats?
Well his farsight was so incredible that even Sidious took note he was too powerful to ignore and removed him as a Prophet, placing him under Imp Intel. Knowing the obvious Force abilities, IE: TK, Force Grip and the like.
He could cast illusions, Mind Control/Drain Knowledge, noted as having a High Force Mastery, Farseeing.
Trained with the Sorcerers of Rhand who are a group of powerful Force Users, augmenting what he learned with Sith secrets from Korriban and the teachings of the Prophets of the Dark Side.
Although again he's more a prep guy with his abilities and resources at his disposal. This is to say he can't be used for random combat, just not against someone like Revan.
Originally posted by NewGuy01the meltmassif lining his nervous system is for easy essence transfer in and out of his body. When he was planning on taking Luke Skywalkers body he explained how his style of essence transfer worked. He needed to line the subjects nervous system with meltmassif and then he could pour his consciousness into the body.
I'm not entirely sure this is true. Isn't it also the case that Cronal can only manipulate Meltmassif because his nervous system is lined with it?The meltmassif itself and his application of it was more contributive to the Shadow of Mindor feats than his own power.
He didn't like his own body so he decided not to just copy Palpatine and grow clones of himself, instead opting to steal Lukes body so that he could live long enough to see the death of the universe.