Cyttorak vs. Shuma-Gorath

Yep.

Cyttorak.

Originally posted by Zack M
Cyttorak is a loser who got punched out by his own avatar.

His own Avatar was sharing his power. Anyways, with just a portion of Cyttorak power, his punches were destroying dimensions. If he would've kept pounding, he would have destroyed everything.

Has dr strange faced cyttorak before?

Doc Strange was terrified of Cyttorak. He could've faced him but he decided not too.

My bad...they faced each other again..during this scene.

Will post the rest later.

Cyttorak was pretty much owning everyone with just the bypassing of his energy. Was said that Galactus himself would've been crushed.

Strange telling us he is helpless amongst the power of Cy.

Remember, Strange was with Galactus and the crew in the dimension. He admits none of them could free him.

The Strange that faced Shuma would have owned Cyttorak right there.

I am beginning to lean towards cyttorak...do these two have any feats outside their realms?

Originally posted by carver9
His own Avatar was sharing his power. Anyways, with just a portion of Cyttorak power, his punches were destroying dimensions. If he would've kept pounding, he would have destroyed everything.

Juggernaut was punching through a dimensional barrier. Huge difference from actually destroying dimensions with his punches.

Originally posted by carver9
Doc Strange was terrified of Cyttorak. He could've faced him but he decided not too.

He was scared of Cyttorak while he was in his realm and at his standard level of power.

And yet the former Sorcerer Supreme was willing to kill himself just to prevent Shuma-Gorath from making it to Earth.

Originally posted by Genii96
I am beginning to lean towards cyttorak...do these two have any feats outside their realms?

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Originally posted by Genii96
I am beginning to lean towards cyttorak...do these two have any feats outside their realms?

Well Strange couldn't even make it to Shuma's realm without massive power ups, otherwise he'd have gone comatose with Kaluu before he reached it.

Shuma also took part in the Cancerverse fiasco. That event alone puts him above Cyttorak.

Originally posted by carver9
Cyttorak was pretty much owning everyone with just the bypassing of his energy. Was said that Galactus himself would've been crushed.

Then the Vishanti show up and they all know their place. The very same Vishanti that fought against and couldn't put down Shuma Gorath :

@Zop...

You missed the purpose of the scans. It had nothing to do with who saves Strange. The point was, Strange was helpless against Cyttorak and admitted no one could save him which included Galactus and his crew. That speak volumes. Your scans were irrelevant.

Strange was powerless in those scans. His internal magic was spent and had no ability to call on skyfathers for help.

Shuma is a whole different beast.

Originally posted by carver9
@Zop...

You missed the purpose of the scans. It had nothing to do with who saves Strange. The point was, Strange was helpless against Cyttorak and admitted no one could save him which included Galactus and his crew. That speak volumes. Your scans were irrelevant.

Originally posted by long pig
Strange was powerless in those scans. His internal magic was spent and had no ability to call on skyfathers for help.

Shuma is a whole different beast.

Not saying you're wrong but where was it said that he was powerless.

Originally posted by zopzop
My scans are not irrelevant. You said he was owning everyone there and that wasn't true.

They wasn't there when Strange said that.

Has Cyttorak ever been considered a threat to the 616 universe? Because Shuma-Gorath was in his debut.

Doctor Strange: ...But if I cannot discover some means of escape, the dread Shuma-Gorath will lay waste to the cosmos!

Shuma-Gorath: When Shuma-Gorath doth rule Reality, my first act shall be to bury thee alive!"

Shuma-Gorath: Earth shall be but the initial step in my conquest of the cosmos!"