Originally posted by Stoic
You mean that you know of correct? Morg at his most powerful had the Waters of Life, and was beating the life out of all of the heralds in existence up to that period in time. Stardust and Red Shift had not been created yet, but the rest were getting baked. The Surfer had to run to Galactus for aid. So yeah, Morg would have ripped those Probes apart with relative ease.
Since Probes are far above any of those Heralds, this laughable excuse for an argument does not follow. Even Terrax wrecked Firelord and Airwalker together, in that arc, and Terrax is inferior to Wonder Woman. A Probe destroyed Warworld, tossed Mongul across star systems iirc, tanked attacks from post Mongul trained amped Superman, tore apart Warrior to the molecular level, ranked attacks from Ion amped GL , etc. that's before you get into wrecking 100,000 Daxamites. The only reason Morg could win against a Probe or two is the axe, as Probe are more vulnerable to edged weapon attacks. That's it. Otherwise he'd get hosed.
Originally posted by Star428
LMAO. No, she's not. Supes, Black Adam, and Captain Marvel are all above her in speed (both combat and travel). U WW fans are so delusional. No matter how many times u ww fangirls say that it doesn't make it true.
Originally posted by panthergodhaha so again you only have excuses and "uh I'm right and you're wrong".
Due to different circumstances. The comics conclisively prove me right and you have zero argument to counter the facts in the comics, period.
You need to learn how this debate thing work.
Probe withstood a attack by ion yet was destroyed by a single pinch from doomsday, Different levels clearly.
And above top tier/trans don't get destroyed by a simple nuke
Originally posted by panthergod
Since Probes are far above any of those Heralds, this laughable excuse for an argument does not follow. Even Terrax wrecked Firelord and Airwalker together, in that arc, and Terrax is inferior to Wonder Woman. A Probe destroyed Warworld, tossed Mongul across star systems iirc, tanked attacks from post Mongul trained amped Superman, tore apart Warrior to the molecular level, ranked attacks from Ion amped GL , etc. that's before you get into wrecking 100,000 Daxamites. The only reason Morg could win against a Probe or two is the axe, as Probe are more vulnerable to edged weapon attacks. That's it. Otherwise he'd get hosed.
When I see WW one shot a planet then perhaps your claim will hold water. And since when is Aquaman above the Surfer? Ah well I guess we all see what we want to see. Also the Daxamites were used as fodder characters like so many others have been in comics. Give a Daxamite a name and make one a main character and then they go from fodder to relevant. Surfer can casually destroy a planet as well.
Originally posted by Stoic
But they aren't when the Surfer could use his board to cut through several of them at once.
Agreed.
But whenever Arthur has his Trident, 100% of the time he uses it to pierce armour, with a 100% success rate.
When Diana uses her lasso to bind, 100% of the time it does not break (barring plot complications, of course). Attempts to break out of it would just pierce your own skin or armour - 100% of the time.
When she has her shield, or her sword, she uses it to slash and pierce. And it is effective.
How many times has Surfer used his board as a cutting tool?
Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha so again you only have excuses and "uh I'm right and you're wrong".You need to learn how this debate thing work.
No, illiterate, I have the comics, which conclusively prove my statement.
This point is settled. Proves were identical in innate power and stats, period, as the comic scan I posted shows.
Probe withstood a attack by ion yet was destroyed by a single pinch from doomsday, Different levels clearly.
That's for showing clearly that your opinion is worthless.
Kyle was not Ion. He was beginning to access some of the Ion energies. He was more powerful than his standard levels. He was not Ion yet.
If you don't know this you're done pretending like you have a valid opinion on comics you have zero relevant knowledge in.
Further, energy attacks are different Than blunt force attacks or edged weapon attacks, and Doomsday has huge claws on his knuckles. Your inability to compare the effect of relevant attack types due to the inability to detect context and nuance is duly noted, though.
And above top tier/trans don't get destroyed by a simple nuke
Good. Neither did Probes get destroyed by a nuke alone. Ever. But you wouldn't know that, since you know nothing about the story at hand.
Guys, cut out the personal attacks.
As far as the Probes go: They were portrayed more than once as being exact duplicates of one another. The problem lies in them being written by several writers that needed to fit them in to the story they were writing.
They're victims of PIS at times more than anything.
Originally posted by panthergod
Since Probes are far above any of those Heralds, this laughable excuse for an argument does not follow. Even Terrax wrecked Firelord and Airwalker together, in that arc, and Terrax is inferior to Wonder Woman. A Probe destroyed Warworld, tossed Mongul across star systems iirc, tanked attacks from post Mongul trained amped Superman, tore apart Warrior to the molecular level, ranked attacks from Ion amped GL , etc. that's before you get into wrecking 100,000 Daxamites. The only reason Morg could win against a Probe or two is the axe, as Probe are more vulnerable to edged weapon attacks. That's it. Otherwise he'd get hosed.
Does Daxam orbit a yellow sun or did it during this storyline?
Originally posted by panthergodno your 1 scan proved nothing as the showings of the probes varied wildly.
No, illiterate, I have the comics, which conclusively prove my statement.This point is settled. Proves were identical in innate power and stats, period, as the comic scan I posted shows.
...no.
That's for showing clearly that your opinion is worthless.
Kyle was not Ion. He was beginning to access some of the Ion energies. He was more powerful than his standard levels. He was not Ion yet.
If you don't know this you're done pretending like you have a valid opinion on comics you have zero relevant knowledge in.
Further, energy attacks are different Than blunt force attacks or edged weapon attacks, and Doomsday has huge claws on his knuckles. Your inability to compare the effect of relevant attack types due to the inability to detect context and nuance is duly noted, though.
Good. Neither did Probes get destroyed by a nuke alone. Ever. But you wouldn't know that, since you know nothing about the story at hand.
He was still using Ion power which is greater than what Doomsday can call upon. A attack is a attack, writers don't f*ck around labelling attack greater than other for obsessive nerds like you to try and justify in your characters favour.
It was still nuke regardless of where it came from or what powered it.
Keep crying though Jelly it makes you so much better beta male son.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
no your 1 scan proved nothing as the showings of the probes varied wildly.He was still using Ion power which is greater than what Doomsday can call upon. A attack is a attack, writers don't f*ck around labelling attack greater than other for obsessive nerds like you to try and justify in your characters favour.
It was still nuke regardless of where it came from or what powered it.
Keep crying though Jelly it makes you so much better beta male son.
Calm down.
