Originally posted by -Pr-
During the Logan Demon arc, he did, and like I said, it was stupid.
Pr, you need to know that it's been happening a lot in recent years.
I understand that you believe he's a solid chunk of metal with no blood inside (or at best it not being red in color), but... Aaron is hardly the only writer to make Colossus bleed.
Pete Wisdom, Omega Red (under Bru), recently a demon-king from Limbo...
Originally posted by abhilegend
WWH was not a good showing for anyone sans Hulk and Sentry.Hulk was super pissed when he fought Fantastic Four as he was there to capture Reed.
He wasn't as much angry as he faced Xavier as he knew Xavier didn't shoot him in space.
Colossus got some lip service like Martian Manhunter and got immediately owned.
While Hulk was actually going to kill Ben before sue stopped him.
Neither are good showings.
Full powered Juggernaut
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Pr, you need to know that it's been happening a lot in recent years.I understand that you believe he's a solid chunk of metal with no blood inside (or at best it not being red in color), but... Aaron is hardly the only writer to make Colossus bleed.
Pete Wisdom, Omega Red (under Bru), recently a demon-king from Limbo...
Actually no, lol. 😛
My belief is that he's metal all the way through, but in the sense that every part of him, every organ, every cell is also metal. It explains why he has bones, and why he can "bleed".
Bleeding red blood just seems stupid to me, and inconsistent. Could be artist error, sure.
I'm still not sure if this whole Limbo book is canon though, unless you mean a different one.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Actually no, lol. 😛My belief is that he's metal all the way through, but in the sense that every part of him, every organ, every cell is also metal. It explains why he has bones, and why he can "bleed".
Bleeding red blood just seems stupid to me, and inconsistent. Could be artist error, sure.
I'm still not sure if this whole Limbo book is canon though, unless you mean a different one.
Ah. I see. Only Whedon got it right, then... in the battle vs. Shaw illusion. Even the Hulk has been drawn bleeding red though (many times), so it's not that bad of an error. Not for Marvel's standards, where most editors take cash for doing a whole lot of nothing.
I admit I'm not sure myself (talking about juggs' scans from the respect thread of course). The whole Secret Wars event made it unclear as to what is and what is not canon.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ah. I see. Only Whedon got it right, then... in the battle vs. Shaw illusion. Even the Hulk has been drawn bleeding red though (many times), so it's not that bad of an error. Not for Marvel's standards, where most editors take cash for doing a whole lot of nothing.I admit I'm not sure myself (talking about juggs' scans from the respect thread of course). The whole Secret Wars event made it unclear as to what is and what is not canon.
I found a bunch of references that directly state he has bones, or that his body reacts like a normal body.
Plus, he had sex with Domino, so it would stand to reason that he has something resembling blood.
Shaw is the best example though, yeah.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Is that book not canon, though?He "bled" energy during the Mutant Massacre storyline, but I don't think it was meant as literal blood. More a disruption in the energy that makes his armoured form so special.
Colossus had red blood when demon Logan slashed him. Utterly terrible writing.
Yeah, I'm not sure if the Secret War's tie ins are canon.
Regarding magical based foe's making him bleed, I guess i can buy it depending on the power of the opponent. The more powerful magic users tend to veer into reality warping category.
Magik made a regular chair "bleed" and sliced a robot in half with each half turning into demon like things complete with individual thought.
How powerful was the demon that took over Logan? Was reality warping a part of this power set?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
His worst classic showing has him scoring Piotr's armor and the impartial narrator stating that its no match for adamantium.One attempt doesn't matter much, anyway. Wolverine failed to cut Exodus once, but succeeded in every other attempt. Fully TO Cable withstood the claws to the torso, then got stabbed two times. WWH got props for him for no-selling one swipe, then got cut the shit out of him. There are more examples, I'm sure.
(...) some cuts shallow, others deep, some doing no real damage -- others, considerable.
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Colossus didn't seem to bleed after S'ym broke off a piece and Logan's claws and impailed him with it. The demon also tanked Logan's slashes without getting scratched.
Originally posted by nwg202
How powerful was the demon that took over Logan? Was reality warping a part of this power set?
Multiple demons, actually. Not clear what his exact powerset was. I guess it's plausible he was capable of some low reality manip feats, as he did go Resident Evil on Angel and reversed Magneto's powers.
In the same era of comics, Colossus has been shown bleeding on other occasions, so it's not that much of a deal.
Originally posted by nwg202
Yeah, I'm not sure if the Secret War's tie ins are canon.Regarding magical based foe's making him bleed, I guess i can buy it depending on the power of the opponent. The more powerful magic users tend to veer into reality warping category.
Magik made a regular chair "bleed" and sliced a robot in half with each half turning into demon like things complete with individual thought.
How powerful was the demon that took over Logan? Was reality warping a part of this power set?
I honestly don't know, now that I think about it.
It's sad though, as under Claremont very specifically wanted Colossus to have a high degree of resistance to magic/sorcery, even going so far as to have Colossus say he was impervious to magic due to how similar his body was to iron (something that the demons at the time were severely allergic to).
Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly don't know, now that I think about it.It's sad though, as under Claremont very specifically wanted Colossus to have a high degree of resistance to magic/sorcery, even going so far as to have Colossus say he was impervious to magic due to how similar his body was to iron (something that the demons at the time were severely allergic to).
Agreed. I personality would still give him a high degree of resistance to magic. I wouldn't expect some random two bit magician or demon to be able to affect him. When it comes to higher tier magic users that might be a different story. I can't picture him waltzing into Mephisto's realm or any hell realm for that matter and seeing him just tanking everything thrown at him.
Similar to people with TP shields, most of them have high resistance but not complete immunity. Cain got TP'ed by Jean with his helmet on IIRC.
Originally posted by nwg202
Agreed. I personality would still give him a high degree of resistance to magic. I wouldn't expect some random two bit magician or demon to be able to affect him. When it comes to higher tier magic users that might be a different story. I wouldn't expect him to waltz into Mephisto's realm and just tank everything thrown at him.Similar to people with TP shields, most of them have high resistance but not complete immunity. Cain got TP'ed by Jean with his helmet on IIRC.
I'd be fine with something like that, but it genuinely feels like, at times, nobody read the Claremont stuff, or they did and just don't care as it doesn't serve the story.
