The Thing vs Colossus

Originally posted by Genii96
when did ben even become this great fighter anyway?....he was in th airforce and knows street fighting....colossus has been training with the xmen since he was young.....how can you tell who is better?

You should do more research on Ben. Or some. Or research.

Colossus knows judo. Ben knows advanced self-pity techniques.

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nidaime-Sama/media/uxm121pg11.jpg.html

You should do more research on Ben. Or some. Or research.

You should do more research on Piotr. Or some. Or research.

You shouldnt expect serious responses to joke posts.

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Piotr has the skill advantage, Ben has the "heart" one.

Riv, how about you name just a few instances of Ben showing his h2h skills. That would make this debate go a lot faster.

Colossus used some skill in his fight with Juggernaut recently.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus used some skill in his fight with Juggernaut recently.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus used some skill in his fight with Juggernaut recently.

Colossus usually tries to outskill Cain or take advantage of something after scrapping with him a bit. Because unlike Ben, Colossus will realize if he can't outmuscle someone, so he'll try something new. Ben just keeps fighting and relies on his "heart".

In the past for example, Colossus punched a hole in a cruise ship so Cain would go down with it.

He used skill and speed to take him down in his most recent appearance.

Used technique against Sasquatch and has judo flipped Sentinels.

He's used advanced techniques like bouncing off a wall and launching himself like a cannonball at an enemy.

He used skills that would impress even Herc when he fought Hulk as a teenager.

He even caught Deadpool off guard with his speed and sort of teleported across the rooftop they were fighting at to catch him with an elbow.

Etc...

Originally posted by deathslash
yep. Colossus seems to use his h2h skill more often than ben.

Yes.

Even without transforming, Piotr handled some thugs armed with handguns. Under Brubaker. KingD19 might remember the details, it was a pretty awesome scene.

Then we have him using judo throws from time to time. He's not a dumb brick, he learned from other X-Men.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes.

Even without transforming, Piotr handled some thugs armed with handguns. Under Brubaker. KingD19 might remember the details, it was a pretty awesome scene.

Then we have him using judo throws from time to time. He's not a dumb brick, he learned from other X-Men.

I do remember that scene. Iirc, he beat them down after threatening to break some jaws. Didn't even need to transform to do it, and it was pretty easy for him.

Just saying.

If it helps, Wolverine rated him in Enemy of the State....

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes.

Even without transforming, Piotr handled some thugs armed with handguns. Under Brubaker. KingD19 might remember the details, it was a pretty awesome scene.

Then we have him using judo throws from time to time. He's not a dumb brick, he learned from other X-Men.

Originally posted by deathslash
Riv, how about you name just a few instances of Ben showing his h2h skills. That would make this debate go a lot faster.

If you care to do about 15 minutes worth of reading...

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/the-things-fighting-skills-1612361/

...this links to a thread that has verbal confirmations and scans aid Ben's fighting skills.

Nothing there makes him "way" better than Colossus as you claim. That barely makes Thing Colossus' equal.

I counter your parenthesized way, with my multiple italicized "opinion" from earlier.
I think he's way better. You dont. I was asked (not by you) to provide proof.
I did that.
I really dont see any reason to drag this out. You arent changing your mind and neither am i.

Have fun riding in that boat by yourself.

I'm sure thats some kind of zinger, and you in your mind it was really good; Colossus good.