Officer Wilson

Started by Henry_Pym6 pages

The amount of mental gymnastics in that is crazy.

Again >multiple< witnesses saw it and had matching testimony. Your first point is more assumption of equal possibilities equals the same outcomes. It's not the case as we are autonomous beings.

Just stating some statistics, everyone's free to make up their own mind, or, like you, have their mind made up before.

You realize there are more white peoples in prison than the rest combined, right?

60%

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
You realize there are more white peoples in prison than the rest combined, right?

60%

That's over 10 percentage points less than the actual demographic.

You realize statistics is a thing one can understand, right? Might help you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's over 10 percentage points less than the actual demographic.

You realize statistics is a thing one can understand, right? Might help you.

prison population is 60% white, not 60% of people are white and prisoners.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
prison population is 60% white, not 60% of people are white and prisoners.

Okay, after you tackle that statistics thing, you should try to tackle the reading thing. Both great skills.

Like I said, white people are underrepresented in prison. Because the police and judicial system is biased against minorities, particularly black people.

http://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/rates.html

Please read

And the official
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp
58%

Yes, thanks, that's exactly my point

Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, after you tackle that statistics thing, you should try to tackle the reading thing. Both great skills.

Like I said, white people are underrepresented in prison. Because the police and judicial system is biased against minorities, particularly black people.

or Black peoples commit more crimes.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, thanks, that's exactly my point
that there are actually more white peoples in prison than Black peoples? How does that show bias towards white peoples?

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
or Black peoples commit more crimes.

I don't think anyone denies that crime rates are higher among black people on average. The problem is that on top of that there's a racist system that criminalizes black people a lot more (particular for drug offenses, where white people commit just as many "crimes" as black people, but are seldomly prosecuted).

At any rate, once more, your link is making the opposite point that you would like it to make:

"A closer look at which communities are most heavily impacted by mass incarceration reveals stark racial and ethnic disparities in U.S. incarceration rates in every region of the country.

Nationally, according to the U.S. Census, Blacks are incarcerated five times more than Whites are, and Hispanics are nearly twice as likely to be incarcerated as Whites:"

and

"But until we have the benefit of these updated figures, the Census Bureau's data collection presented in this analysis is a useful starting point for state-level evaluations of the disparate impacts of criminal justice policy decisions."

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
that there are actually more white peoples in prison than Black peoples? How does that show bias towards white peoples?

lol, you really don't understand how demographics work at all, do you?

There's more white people in prison than black people, but there's far less white people in prison than the percentage of the US population would suggest, that is literally the point your source makes.

You're making the sweeping statement that "the system" is the reason... I'm saying then why so many white peoples in jail?

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
You're making the sweeping statement that "the system" is the reason... I'm saying then why so many white peoples in jail?

And I'm explaining to you that statistically there aren't that many white people in jail, like your source did as well (had you read it).

But in reality they still outnumber everyone else.

Thus how is "the system" responsible?

Originally posted by Bardock42
He (had to) resigned because he show an unarmed teenager. One less incompetent, racist cop, sounds like a win for everyone...well, except the unarmed teenager who had to die cause Wilson thought he was the racist Dirty Harry.
And one less under-educated, violent thug with no future sounds like a win for everyone too. 👆

So do you have evidence that Wilson is racist and executed Brown needlessly, or is that just the narrative that most closely correlates with your political views?

Originally posted by NemeBro
And one less under-educated, violent thug with no future sounds like a win for everyone too. 👆

So do you have evidence that Wilson is racist and executed Brown needlessly, or is that just the narrative that most closely correlates with your political views?

Just the same evidence as everyone else, witness testimony, Wilson's bizarre account and some assorted pieces of evidence that came out. You are free to draw your own conclusion why an unarmed teenager ran away from a police car and ended up dead 50 meters from where he was first shot.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Just the same evidence as everyone else, witness testimony, Wilson's bizarre account and some assorted pieces of evidence that came out. You are free to draw your own conclusion why an unarmed teenager ran away from a police car and ended up dead 50 meters from where he was first shot.
Most of the evidence correlates with Wilson's account though. 👆

You haven't even acknowledge the several people who testified against Wilson's side of the story that were discredited because they either weren't there or admitted to lying under oath.

Also, nah, I generally try to not make a conclusion on anything that isn't supported by objective evidence. Granted, it was probably wrong and hypocritical of me to state so bluntly that Brown definitely deserved his fate without any empirical evidence earlier in this thread given this statement, but no one's perfect. 👇

Originally posted by NemeBro
Most of the evidence correlates with Wilson's account though. 👆

You haven't even acknowledge the several people who testified against Wilson's side of the story that were discredited because they either weren't there or admitted to lying under oath.

Also, nah, I generally try to not make a conclusion on anything that isn't supported by objective evidence. Granted, it was probably wrong and hypocritical of me to state so bluntly that Brown definitely deserved his fate without any empirical evidence earlier in this thread given this statement, but no one's perfect. 👇

Well, at least now that you realized it you can try to better yourself.

What's the point? The mere fact that I know nothing and realize as much makes me better than all of you. 👆