Originally posted by Stoic
😄It's sad to see how people are unable to see past the hate of idiots. The only people that I see being swayed by such propaganda are those with very little intelligence. Oh shit... there's a lot of those types out there. This naturally shows that there are far more followers than leaders. Shit now there's an idea! I wonder if I could become rich off of all of the dummies out there?
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Nah, I agree with you. We're all allowed to be racist if we want..as long is it doesn't turn into acts of violence against other races.
that's the one thing we can all agree upon across party lines: the inalienable right to be an ignorant douchebag.
hey, it's a start.
This doesn't exactly bother me, but I am kind of irked by the fact that I know the article was correct when it said people would lose their shit if white people did this.
I was thinking about this issue the other day when I saw a commercial for an online dating site for black people called "black people meet". I had no issue with it either, but I could just imagine a "white people meet" website upsetting people.
Because there is a different context. White people do not needs safe spaces, because they do not get discriminated against for their race. So them desiring a white only space has different connotations than black people desiring a black only space.
The question whether they should be allowed to have a white only space is unrelated. But people would be outraged if it was white's only because it is in essence saying "I don't like black people I don't want to do yoga with them" while the opposite does not necessarily say that but could be "I don't want to deal with discrimination while I do yoga, so I want to do it with people of my race".
So is there some big discrimination going on with yoga in Seattle? Is that why they say they did this, they just couldn't deal with discrimination?
Though whites aren't the only people in this country who discriminate. They seemed to include every race under the sun but whites. That seems less about avoiding discrimination and more just in line with the "I don't want to do yoga with white people".
I don't think it is discrimination specific to yoga. But there's just a lot of racism and discrimination going on generally. Being gawked at or people behaving in weird ways because they feel awkward around black people, etc.
It's understandable if a group doesn't want to deal with that when doing a relaxed activity. Since white people don't face that the same reason doesn't apply.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think it is discrimination specific to yoga. But there's just a lot of racism and discrimination going on generally. Being gawked at or people behaving in weird ways because they feel awkward around black people, etc.It's understandable if a group doesn't want to deal with that when doing a relaxed activity. Since white people don't face that the same reason doesn't apply.
But since white people aren't the only people in this country known to discriminate..how does it make sense to include a variety of races in this mix? What you are saying would make more sense if this was a yoga group for a specific race. It's not, it's just not for white people.
Originally posted by Surtur
But since white people aren't the only people in this country known to discriminate..how does it make sense to include a variety of races in this mix? What you are saying would make more sense if this was a yoga group for a specific race. It's not, it's just not for white people.
If these people feel comfortable with different people of color that's good for them. I mean they outright say it's about making POC feel comfortable, no reason to doubt their statement.
Originally posted by Surtur
So then what if a group said "whites only" and then gave a statement saying they just feel more comfortable doing yoga around members of their own race?
Like I said, whites do not face racism (or the same kind of discrimination) so that argument doesn't hold, the only reason to not allow POC is because there is a dislike, and that's why the reaction to it would be different.
Originally posted by Surtur
But why doesn't it hold? Comfort is about more then just not being discriminated against.
Because the comfort would be based in racism, rather than in a desire for lack of racism.
You are totally right that some racist people would feel more comfortable without black people in their clubs and classes. But their motivations are generally considered distasteful, which is why there would be outrage.
of course it is an equal ethical/moral violation for anyone to pull this act.
but you cant weigh some nutter yoga class as an equal threat to 1000+ white supremacist groups in america. it would be a silly and obtuse argument to make.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
of course it is an equal ethical/moral violation for anyone to pull this act.but you cant weigh some nutter yoga class as an equal threat to 1000+ white supremacist groups in america. it would be a silly and obtuse argument to make.
I agree it is bad for anyone to do it, but I don't think anyone was equating this to any of the white supremacist groups.