Human Torch vs Captain Cold

Started by basilisk5 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Read the scan carefully. Cold's tech can generate temperatures below Absolute Zero.
Awesome - "my technology can generate temperatures lower than the lowest possible temperature!" He should call his weapon the paradox gun.

DC is full of things like that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, so your question is one of range?

Cold Grenades, that can freeze an entire building (well, the entire prison building), stopping even Black Lantern Zoom:

Or he can just expand his field over an entire buidling:

http://i.imgur.com/FcVR0ON.png

But whilst he's figuring all this out (remember, he fights Flashes - being outreacted is rare for him), his field will still protect him:

Nothing short of a Flash has enough momentum to break through.

And yes, he can project it:

http://i.imgur.com/xW1UfIg.png

Don't think you know the starting distance between these two. I asked you to show he can produce absolute 0 attacks at range. None of your scans show this. Never said he could shoot building length attacks (lol) but nothing has been displayed with him shooting his most deadly attack at the distance these two are starting off at.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't think you know the starting distance between these two. I asked you to show he can produce absolute 0 attacks at range. None of your scans show this. Never said he could shoot building length attacks (lol) but nothing has been displayed with him shooting his most deadly attack at the distance these two are starting off at.

With the range they have, and the reaction speed of Cold, what can Torch do

Blast him from above.

Originally posted by carver9
Blast him from above.

Originally posted by Zack M
Here is Cold blocking an attack from Weather Wizard. I'm assuming he could do the same to HT.

A lightening bolt generates heat upwards of 30,000 K or 29,727 Celsius (°C)

The cold field stops Flashes.

Johnny doesn't exactly go Nova at opponents he has no clue about, let alone those he DOES know.

And even then, its hardly the best attack.

He can shoot the field at range. I showed him shooting it. You want to argue RL physics and say the further it goes the less effective it is?

Then the further Storm is, the less effective his heat.

Originally posted by -K-M-
A lightening bolt generates heat upwards of 30,000 K or 29,727 Celsius (°C)

Also, this would kill CC.

It would, but HT doesn't kill people.

Which is what I said on page one. He is not going Nova

Lol. Carver loves debating out of character.

Johnny at a certain temp is deadly to cold just by being within range. Colds gun could do him in but so could storms flame from a distance and Johnny is obviously faster with the power of flight.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Johnny at a certain temp is deadly to cold just by being within range. Colds gun could do him in but so could storms flame from a distance and Johnny is obviously faster with the power of flight.

Yes, because Cold has no idea how to fight speedsters.....

And agreed on the certain temp thing - but Storm does not go into battle saturating the entire battlefield with his nova flame. Anything he hurls at Cold, well, Cold has the reflexes to be shot at FROM THE BACK, dodge, and then put up ice walls.

Not to mention anything that gets near him gets taken out by his cold field.

Will he? Depends on his temp I think. Either could one shot the other. Either could hit one another from range. Either could widen their beams of or immerse themselves in their own respective temp based powers for protection or offense. But only one is faster. Only one has flight.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Will he? Depends on his temp I think. Either could one shot the other. Either could hit one another from range. Either could widen their beams of or immerse themselves in their own respective temp based powers for protection or offense. But only one is faster. Only one has flight.

Is Johnny faster? Again, not sure how flight helps?

@Galan and Stilt:
http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-gas-goes-below-absolute-zero-1.12146

In flight? Yes. That's also your answer to the other question. Creating range better for evasion as well.

Originally posted by namorsubby
In flight? Yes. That's also your answer to the other question. Creating range better for evasion as well.

AoE attacks.

I'm sorry I don't get your reference I assume you're alluding to recent showings in a comic book story arc I haven't read everything consistently in a while. Please illuminate me.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I'm sorry I don't get your reference I assume you're alluding to recent showings in a comic book story arc I haven't read everything consistently in a while. Please illuminate me.

Oh, sorry.

Cold Grenade

Edit: That's Black Lantern Zoom. And he was trapped.

He could definitely hit johnny based on his flash exploits. But who is more likely to hit whom first?