The Vault Hunters vs Superman

Originally posted by Jmanghan
I want you to prove that Superman has been hit by a truck without budging or taking damage.

Just because he's survived far worse, doesn't mean it won't bother me.

If I get struck by Lightning multiple times, does that mean when I stub my toe, it won't hurt?

You're logic is too skewered to make any sense.

First of all, it has to do with who hits Superman with said truck. A truck going at his highest speed won't ever register to Superman if it hit him.

Now a truck being wield by Doomsday and hitting Superman with it will not only stagger him but hurt him.

See, differencse in analogies goes a long way.

Originally posted by SquallX
You're logic is too skewered to make any sense.

First of all, it has to do with who hits Superman with said truck. A truck going at his highest speed won't ever register to Superman if it hit him.

Now a truck being wield by Doomsday and hitting Superman with it will not only stagger him but hurt him.

See, differencse in analogies goes a long way.

I made the same argument before in my The Boss vs Superman thread.

If a truck at any speed can hurt Superman, you can sure as shit bet Bullets from the near Planetery-Level Vault Hunters are going to damage him.

If B0RE can pierce Hyperius the Invincible's Super-Strong shield, a shield that takes ammo from Super-Powered Grenades, Rocket Launchers, Shotguns. Just about any ammo you can think of. Also, in one of the missions, you're supposed to shoot Nukes out of the sky, you and everyone around you take no damage.

The Original Vault Hunters were powerful enough to beat a dimensional being called the Destroyer, though there's inconsistency with that, since they lost to Willhelm, however, the Warrior paled in comparison to that dude.

It should also be said that the characters in Borderlands 2 faced people like Willhelm and the Warrior without help.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
But it's still a truck, a manmade thing.

I made the same argument before in my The Boss vs Superman thread.

If a truck at any speed can hurt Superman, you can sure as shit bet Bullets from the near Planetery-Level Vault Hunters are going to damage him.

If B0RE can pierce Hyperius the Invincible's Super-Strong shield, a shield that takes ammo from Super-Powered Grenades, Rocket Launchers, Shotguns. Just about any ammo you can think of. Also, in one of the missions, you're supposed to shoot Nukes out of the sky, you and everyone around you take no damage.

The Original Vault Hunters were powerful enough to beat a dimensional being called the Destroyer, though there's inconsistency with that, since they lost to Willhelm, however, the Warrior paled in comparison to that dude.

It should also be said that the characters in Borderlands 2 faced people like Willhelm and the Warrior without help.

Again it doesn't matter when you're using the analogy wrong. Just because it's man-made, doesn't mean it can't hurt Superman if wielded by someone on par with Superman.

A normal car can't hurt Superman, but someone on par with Superman hitting him with said car will hurt him. It's not the object that's really hurting him, but the kinetic energies being transfer to it by the character wielding it.

Originally posted by SquallX
Again it doesn't matter when you're using the analogy wrong. Just because it's man-made, doesn't mean it can't hurt Superman if wielded by someone on par with Superman.

A normal car can't hurt Superman, but someone on par with Superman hitting him with said car will hurt him. It's not the object that's really hurting him, but the kinetic energies being transfer to it by the character wielding it.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Thats bullshit and you can't prove it.

You're joking right?

You want me to prove a negative? How does that make any sense?

Why don't you show me Superman getting hurt by normal cars hurting when not being wielded by a powerful character?

I'll wait.

On my vita, will get the full picture up later on, but these are people that supposedly went on a ramp and crashed into him, or at least, thats what it looks like, Golden Age Superman counts.

Originally posted by SquallX
You're joking right?

You want me to prove a negative? How does that make any sense?

Why don't you show me Superman getting hurt by normal cars hurting when not being wielded by a powerful character?

I'll wait.

Wtf??

I mean, I under you're desperate to prove a point, but resorting to baseless assumptions is low.

What about Batman punching Superman barely strong enough to lift the Batmobile? Or the Flash? His punches, while superfast, are still Human.

I'm not gonna downplay Superman, but just because he can survive apocalyptic events, does not mean he isn't going to be hurt by other things. Lets say these extremely powerful bullets don't pierce Superman's skin right away, they are going to make a dent, and at some point that dent will turn to bruising, and during the long battle, his skin will become fleshy, soft, and bruised. Its going to happen, and there's too much power here.

About the phase-lock, who's to say Maya and Lilith can't phase-lock Superman together?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
On my vita, will get the full picture up later on, but these are people that supposedly went on a ramp and crashed into him, or at least, thats what it looks like, Golden Age Superman counts.

So you're using in his beginning of his career to prove you're point?

Honestly, who uses Golden Age Superman to prove a point? It's like me comparing post crisis Batman and Golden Age Batman with the no killing stance he has.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Kinetic Energy from every single powerful being that has ever hurt Superman with manmade objects??

Wtf??

I mean, I under you're desperate to prove a point, but resorting to baseless assumptions is low.

You do know everything have to do with energy right?

Calling someone desperate because you have nothing to back you're claims, priceless.

Now, lets look at the maximum cooldown time for each move, and assume it takes a bit of Stamina down.

On top of the fact that each character from Borderlands 2 can kill Willhelm and Warrior of their own. These are all very powerful people whose bullets destroyed a being literally made for planetary devastation.

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know everything have to do with energy right?

Calling someone desperate because you have nothing to back you're claims, priceless.

Its not the energy Superman uses either.

Kinetic Energy is stuff like Green Lantern, Flash, not Doomsday and such.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
What about Batman punching Superman barely strong enough to lift the Batmobile? Or the Flash? His punches, while superfast, are still Human.

I'm not gonna downplay Superman, but just because he can survive apocalyptic events, does not mean he isn't going to be hurt by other things. Lets say these extremely powerful bullets don't pierce Superman's skin right away, they are going to make a dent, and at some point that dent will turn to bruising, and during the long battle, his skin will become fleshy, soft, and bruised. Its going to happen, and there's too much power here.

About the phase-lock, who's to say Maya and Lilith can't phase-lock Superman together?

First of all, do you even read comics? Batman is the king of pis/cis stories.

Second, the Flash is not human, he's a meta of the highest level. Read what the speed force is. The speed force is an energy that protects Flash, it even heals him.

All I hear or just baseless claims.

Am done with you, someone else can debate you. You're making no sense what so ever.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Kinetic Energy is stuff like Green Lantern, Flash, not Doomsday and such.

Jesus man, we use energy!

Without kinetic energy, we would be stagnant. It's that energy that allows us to do things.

Taking a shit is using energy.

So seriously need to check you're facts.

I know, I was making a point, Doomsday is not like that, he is not one of us, nor is Superman.