Ultron Army VS Magneto

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well like I said, it's not his power I'm questioning but his ability to multi-task. Crushing the ultron-bots is nothing compared to lifting the Golden Gate Bridge. So he should win as long as none of the bots is able to hit him with a shot. Actually, did the Ultron-bots even have blaster capabilities? I forgot.

Not all of them did, from what I can recall (the one that crash landed through the helicarrier front window had 2 arms IIRC), but some of the bots had one of their limbs replaced with those repulser like energy blasters. I personally just don't think any of them could get close enough to fire off an accurate shot. I kinda picture it going in a similar fashion to when the airforce attacks the Kryptonian ship, at the end of MoS. They have speed, maneuverability, and are all piloted by independent minds, capable of thinking and reacting on their own. Yet none of that mattered, because the moment they got within a certain range, all their tech went to shit. Because we know Magneto can sense metal, based on the movies. We also know he has very long range on his powers as well, and that he can literally manipulate the next best thing to a million tons at once.

If he plays it smart, he should simply decide to crush any metal object that comes within a certain radius of him. If he does that, it won't matter what kind of offense the bots try to mount. They will get crushed the moment they get within a certain distance of him.

God bless you vault for even trying to reason with that tard.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Not all of them did, from what I can recall (the one that crash landed through the helicarrier front window had 2 arms IIRC), but some of the bots had one of their limbs replaced with those repulser like energy blasters. I personally just don't think any of them could get close enough to fire off an accurate shot. I kinda picture it going in a similar fashion to when the airforce attacks the Kryptonian ship, at the end of MoS. They have speed, maneuverability, and are all piloted by independent minds, capable of thinking and reacting on their own. Yet none of that mattered, because the moment they got within a certain range, all their tech went to shit. Because we know Magneto can sense metal, based on the movies. We also know he has very long range on his powers as well, and that he can literally manipulate the next best thing to a million tons at once.

If he plays it smart, he should simply decide to crush any metal object that comes within a certain radius of him. If he does that, it won't matter what kind of offense the bots try to mount. They will get crushed the moment they get within a certain distance of him.

I don't really see anything to disagree with honestly. I do think Magneto would win, just that he can lose if he's not careful.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Yea, that would be sick. But I'm sure someone here would downplay it.

Or do the whole "didn't do that every single situation he was ever in so it doesn't count" 'argument'

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't really see anything to disagree with honestly. I do think Magneto would win, just that he can lose if he's not careful.

Oh definitely. IF he had to get hit, it would mean a world of trouble for him. He only has human durability after all. But the chances of him getting hit, based on his range, reaction times, fine control, raw power, and skill/imagination at using his abilities, is very remote. He'd have to do something extremely stupid for that to happen, IMO. If he plays it smart, which he should, the bot army gets slaughtered in very short order.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Or do the whole "didn't do that every single situation he was ever in so it doesn't count" 'argument'

Don't know anyone in these forums who uses this logic. Usually the argument is "Never showed any feat where they actually do said action so it doesn't count".

Originally posted by FrothByte
Don't know anyone in these forums who uses this logic. Usually the argument is "Never showed any feat where they actually do said action so it doesn't count".

You use that logic, in every single debate when you get desperate. 😂

And quit pretending you don't.

Time-Immemorial, stop flaming and baiting people. FrothByte did absolutely nothing for you to act like this.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Magneto rewires the the bots like he did the sentinels and dethrones Ultron. 😛

Seriously though, if the guy has the range and fine control to take command of several dozen (hundreds even?) of missiles at once, and redirect them at various ship targets, I don't see the Ultron bots doing very well. Their best hope is getting off some lucky energy shots and hopefully scoring a hit, but we have also seen that Mags can react fast enough to respond to bullets, and has used metal to make shields in the past as well. Remember, Magneto has pretty insane range on his powers. He doesn't even need to see targets to control them, as evidenced by his control of the sentinels, and when he pulled the entire panic room out of the Whitehouse in DoFP.

i agree but i doubt he could re wire the bots like he did sentinels, he had the blueprints for them.
magneto has a huge bolo stomp here but my question is if he can sense metal with that fine precision we have seen (X2 too much iron in the blood) then how the hell was he impaled by that metal fragment !?

once again just to be clear i am rooting for magneto

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
i agree but i doubt he could re wire the bots like he did sentinels, he had the blueprints for them.
magneto has a huge bolo stomp here but my question is if he can sense metal with that fine precision we have seen (X2 too much iron in the blood) then how the hell was he impaled by that metal fragment !?

once again just to be clear i am rooting for magneto

That first bit was a joke. Though he could still puppeteer them if he wanted to. Ironic, considering Ultron's "no strings" speech. 😆

The bit that pierced him in DoFP was a piece of blown up Sentinel, and they were specifically made from a non metal material (or at least one Mags can't control, hence the reason he had to rewire the old ones as well).

fair enough i suppose, i thought the shrapnel he stopped was part of the plane and sentinels

Iirc the sentinels was built around some form of alloy made from mystique that wasn't metal, had it been metal magneto would have wiped the floor with them.

All the sentinels past and future were one's that were made out of specific metals that mags couldn't control

Originally posted by steverules_2
Wish they'd show magneto doing his magnetic shield bubble

Even if he didn't have that ability in the movies, he still could have done so much more other than being helpless.

1. Create a protective metal sphere around himself / others then throw high speed projectiles at enemies / bomb their bases.

Theoretically a tungsten rod could have the energy of a small nuke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

YouTube video

2. Create a Metal Fortress

YouTube video

3. Create a safe haven in space (could even launch weapons / missiles from there)

YouTube video

13:25

And he doesn't have to achieve any of this by himself, he would have had other gifted allies to help him.

Those video's show how impressive Magneto was in the cartoons but not the movie's, so unfortunately they don't count for much in here

I just wanna see the magnetic shield bubble for nostalgic reasons

Originally posted by steverules_2
Those video's show how impressive Magneto was in the cartoons but not the movie's, so unfortunately they don't count for much in here

I just wanna see the magnetic shield bubble for nostalgic reasons

I'm saying he could probably have done those things given the abilities he has already shown in the past in the films, which is just controlling metal/levitation.

In fact, he has already shown he can do those things on a lesser scale.

1. In X-men 2, he manipulates iron smuggled from mystique into balls and a flat disc. He can easily shape it into a sphere.

2. In X-men 1, he disarms the X-men the same way in the Statue of Liberty.

Also, he manipulates the environment in his headquarters (the floating platform and prison bars).

3. He has shown he can levitate other massive objects - Golden Gate Bridge and the Sports Stadium.

Oh yeah, his feats in the movie are highly impressive and he probably could do most of the things he does in the comics which he has in fact already done as far as I know but the shield bubble is something that has yet to be seen and it's something I'd like to see as in the comics it is one of his main feats

Originally posted by steverules_2
All the sentinels past and future were one's that were made out of specific metals that mags couldn't control

I'll rewatch then, I recall it not being metal.

Past ones were, not sure about future, I know Mistique was used some how for the future ones

Mags in the cartoons was pretty sick. He needs an upgrade boost. I'm hoping with the new Apoc movie he gets one.