Why is the word democracy not in the constitution?

Started by Bardock423 pages

Democracy is not a form of government, it's a system by which government derives its power. Since the United States is one of such systems it is a Democracy.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Democracy is not a form of government, it's a system by which government derives its power. Since the United States is one of such systems it is a Democracy.

yikes

The idea that the USA are a democracy is one of the funniest things I ever heard on kmc. Thanks TI 😆 .

Originally posted by Bardock42
Democracy is not a form of government,

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It is... and it's one of the worst types.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
The idea that the USA are a democracy is one of the funniest things I ever heard on kmc. Thanks TI 😆 .

Finally, a non-American who hasn't been brainwashed into thinking that the U.S. is a democracy.

I always knew you were a smart guy, Prof. 👆

It's a representative democracy. I'll explain how that works. Politicians run campaigns to convince people to vote for them (the democracy part). Usually the politician with the most money on their campaign wins. They then represent the persons or businesses that gave them the money to run their campaign (the representative part)

Fantastic isn't it?

No, it isn't. It's a constitutional republic. PERIOD. Meaning it's governed by the law of the land (the Constitution). It protects individual rights. Congress can never vote to take away someone's God-given Constitutional rights. Even if they get a unanimous vote the fact that our government is a constitutional republic means that the individual is always protected from the votes of the many.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
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It's the reason why there are Republics that are Democracies, there's Monarchies that are Democracies, there's Anarchist implementations of Democracies. I mean I suppose there can be a form of government that's just a "Democracy" though I wouldn't know of any modern example. Most modern Democracies are either Republics or Monarchies.

God doesn't care about your constitution.

Originally posted by jaden101
God doesn't care about your constitution.

Of course He doesn't. By God-given, I mean "natural rights" that every individual inherently has.

Anyway, I thought u didn't believe in God. So how would u know what He cares or doesn't care about?

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's the reason why there are Republics that are Democracies, there's Monarchies that are Democracies, there's Anarchist implementations of Democracies. I mean I suppose there can be a form of government that's just a "Democracy" though I wouldn't know of any modern example. Most modern Democracies are either Republics or Monarchies.

no it's just that your first and last sentence completely contradicted eachother.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
no it's just that your first and last sentence completely contradicted eachother.

Okay, do you agree with the second post then, or are you one of those that believe that the United States are not a democracy?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, do you agree with the second post then, or are you one of those that believe that the United States are not a democracy?

i believe it can be called a type of democratic government (democratic process being a part of it), but to call it a "democracy" suggests that the entire body of government is elected by the people, which would be wrong.

Originally posted by Star428
Of course He doesn't. By God-given, I mean "natural rights" that every individual inherently has.

Anyway, I thought u didn't believe in God. So how would u know what He cares or doesn't care about?

So ownership of guns is a "natural right" yet walking around naked in public or urinating and defecating outside isn't despite them involving doing things 'God' intended the human body to do?

OK.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i believe it can be called a type of democratic government (democratic process being a part of it), but to call it a "democracy" suggests that the entire body of government is elected by the people, which would be wrong.

Okay, cool, so you don't know what democracy means.

Originally posted by jaden101
So ownership of guns is a "natural right" yet walking around naked in public or urinating and defecating outside isn't despite them involving doing things 'God' intended the human body to do?

OK.

The ability to protect one's self is a natural right. That's what guns are for. At least, that's what they're supposed to be for. It's certainly what the second amendment is for, jaden. Ability to protect oneself is a natural right of all creatures under God. That's pretty common sense stuff that even you should understand.

Originally posted by jaden101
So ownership of guns is a "natural right" yet walking around naked in public or urinating and defecating outside isn't despite them involving doing things 'God' intended the human body to do?

OK.

God clearly cares more about an [true] American's right to bear arms than your Scottish right to piss and shit yourself in public, duh.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, cool, so you don't know what democracy means.

Time for another classic bardock etymology fallacy?

Originally posted by Star428
A few problems with your line of reasoning:

1. Back then, there was no airplanes or helicopters. So why would they mention anything about an air force?

2. The Constitution specifically mentions in article 4 section 4 that the U.S. is a republic.

3. Our nation's Pledge of Allegiance specifically mentions we are a republic as well while saying nothing of "democracy". Then we also have this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic

I've also posted plenty of links before that show founding fathers thought "democracy" was one of the worst government types. When a woman asked Benjamin Franklin after the signing of the Declaration of Independence "What have you given us, sir?", he replied "A republic... if you can keep it."

What possible logic made you think posting the first response there was in any way sensible or intelligent beats me. That was the point- things change. Back then, they didn't know how the US would later be defining democracy, so why mention democracy? Like the air force, things changed.

As I mentioned in this thread and to you many times before, the FFs were referring to DIRECT democracy. Not representative democracy, which is what the US is. Your rants there have absolutely nothing to do with anything in the world today. As you well know, your entire current administration calls the US a democracy and indeed the administration has done so for over a century.

Sorry Bashar- you're not right on this one.

that's alright. i wasn't emotionally invested in my opinion like some others here.

it is a confusing term though, for having such a simple concept.