Dooku vs. Maul

Started by EmperorSidious211 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
They achieved their objective whereas Vader didn't.

You didn't have the faith to say he could. You don't believe in Sheev.

You already conceded so it doesn't matter what else you say.

Says the extremist. I'm in the middle.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You already conceded so it doesn't matter what else you say.

Says the extremist. I'm in the middle.

Nah. I exp,aimed the differences and you failed to rebut once again.

I believe Sidious' skill shits on Kenobi's. You're unsure but Yoda agrees with me, nonbeliever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. I exp,aimed the differences and you failed to rebut once again.

I believe Sidious' skill shits on Kenobi's. You're unsure but Yoda agrees with me, nonbeliever.

I agree they do, but so does Anakin since Anakin is stated to be a 9.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I agree they do, but so does Anakin since Anakin is stated to be a 9.
That is just some guys opinion but you don't think Sidious can pull the feat off whereas I so. Maul wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is just some guys opinion but you don't think Sidious can pull the feat off whereas I so. Maul wins.

I think it was stated in "The making of Revenge Of The Sith".

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
I think it was stated in "The making of Revenge Of The Sith".
What was stated ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What was stated ?

That Anakin was a nine. I think I remember a "They're up with Sidious" line. Anakin would get destroyed by Sidious though.

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
That Anakin was a nine. I think I remember a "They're up with Sidious" line. Anakin would get destroyed by Sidious though.
Its rather obvious that Sidious wrecks Anakin and would destroy Kenobi as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is just some guys opinion but you don't think Sidious can pull the feat off whereas I so. Maul wins.

This guy is the stunt coordinator of the ROTS movie and the other prequel films. His "opinions" are taken as facts around here, depending on the context. For instance when discussing levels it's pretty much fact.

Where are the showings? After all this time you still have no showings. Post his showings or you have to concede.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
This guy is the stunt coordinator of the ROTS movie and the other prequel films. His "opinions" are taken as facts around here, depending on the context. For instance when discussing levels it's pretty much fact.

Where are the showings? After all this time you still have no showings. Post his showings or you have to concede.

No, it's just an opinion. Prove it.

His movement speed from the films when compared.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's just an opinion. Prove it.

His movement speed from the films when compared.

He's like the George Lucas of the lightsaber duels. He says Anakin is a 9 so him being the position he is he can say that.

That's not a valid piece of evidence since Lee was much older than the person of Maul, and since actaul humans can do what force sensitives can ,you can't use the movie as evidence in that since. Also even with that Dooku showed he had speed in his battles in attack of the clones and Revenge of the Sith. However This all comes down to interpretation which can't be used as proof.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He's like the George Lucas of the lightsaber duels. He says Anakin is a 9 so him being the position he is he can say that.

That's not a valid piece of evidence since Lee was much older than the person of Maul, and since actaul humans can do what force sensitives can ,you can't use the movie as evidence in that since. Also even with that Dooku showed he had speed in his battles in attack of the clones and Revenge of the Sith. However This all comes down to interpretation which can't be used as proof.

An opinion.

So you ignore their movement speed. Palpatine is much older as well yet his speed is faster than Dooku's. Quit ignoring the evidence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
An opinion.

So you ignore their movement speed. Palpatine is much older as well yet his speed is faster than Dooku's. Quit ignoring the evidence.

Facts no matter how hard you want to deny it.

No, I mean you can't use that speed as an actaul analysis to judge whose faster especially when people are limited to their age and physical handicaps. TCW is far better or novels or anything in the expanded universe. There it shows Dooku is faster than Maul, or at least just a s fast. Stunt doubles really.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Facts no matter how hard you want to deny it.

No, I mean you can't use that speed as an actaul analysis to judge whose faster especially when people are limited to their age and physical handicaps. TCW is far better or novels or anything in the expanded universe. There it shows Dooku is faster than Maul, or at least just a s fast. Stunt doubles really.

No, he gave his opinion.

Yes, you can. I see you want to ignore the evidence again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he gave his opinion.

Yes, you can. I see you want to ignore the evidence again.

His opinions are facts.

No you can't. Movies are limited to human error and cinema tics. TCW and novels aren't.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
His opinions are facts.

No you can't. Movies are limited to human error and cinema tics. TCW and novels aren't.

No, it's just an opinion. He gave a number. That doesn't dictate all outcomes.

You can't ignore the live action films.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's just an opinion. He gave a number. That doesn't dictate all outcomes.

You can't ignore the live action films.

It is fact. We treat them as facts since he is the professional here. It dictates where they are in terms of skill with the saber.

All depends on the situation. You don't ignore, you just don't use them as evidence, such as the speed of character. TCW and novels are better.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It is fact. We treat them as facts since he is the professional here. It dictates where they are in terms of skill with the saber.

All depends on the situation. You don't ignore, you just don't use them as evidence, such as the speed of character. TCW and novels are better.

Nah, it is his opinion not mine.

No, they are t. Live action films are the best and will always be the best. Quit trying to ignore the evidence.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
This guy is the stunt coordinator of the ROTS movie and the other prequel films. His "opinions" are taken as facts around here, depending on the context. For instance when discussing levels it's pretty much fact.

*cough*

Since when are Nick "Lightsaber Forms don't exist" Gillards' opinions taken as "facts" around here? The guy choreographs fights. That's it. He doesn't have any expertise that goes beyond that. His personal views on the lightsaber skill of certain characters are exactly that: his personal views. I mean, seriously: Not only did the guy rank his own character, Cin Drallig, a level 10, he also produced the following gem:

"Obi-Wan is at a level 8, which is where Anakin starts. But Anakin jumps to level 9 -- and the difference between 8 and 9 is enormous. A Jedi can get to level 9, but that's the difference between light and dark. The duel actually gives you quite an idea about these characters, because Anakin has learned the fighting, he's enormously talented -- but he hasn't learned the mental side of it. Knowing all of that from a story standpoint was enormously helpful in choreographing the sequence."

So the difference in lightsaber skill betwen Anakin and Obi-Wan is enormous - in favor for Anakin. Who didn't see that during their duel, when Anakin chopped Kenobis legs off and left him lying next to a lava stream...oh...wait a minute... 🙄

That doesn't change the fact that Quanchi is wrong - as usual...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, it is his opinion not mine.

No, they are t. Live action films are the best and will always be the best. Quit trying to ignore the evidence.

Even if it were just his opinion and this is a big IF. His opinion is greater than yours.

No they are not in terms of dueling in this context. Animation and novels are the best in this instance sense they have more freedom, especially the novels.