Darth Vader (RotJ) vs. Yoda (RotS)

Started by Darth Thor5 pages
Originally posted by McP
Basing on...? Vader might have some nice-looking showings, but he literaly has no good showings against top-Force users (excluding perhaps TFU and TFU II). Or at least mid-Force users.

Crushing an AT-AT. Best TK Feat against Inanimate objects in Canon.

Unless we're going by Legends in which case why would we ignore TFU and TFUII?

Originally posted by quanchi112
😂

Piloting skills have no bearing on a one on one saber fight. Quit going off topic to wank Vader.

Still butthurt about Vader being the best supernatural pilot I see 😂

TFA will open your mind to the True Awesomeness of Star Wars Space Battles.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Crushing an AT-AT. Best TK Feat against Inanimate objects in Canon.

Unless we're going by Legends in which case why would we ignore TFU and TFUII?

Still butthurt about Vader being the best supernatural pilot I see 😂

TFA will open your mind to the True Awesomeness of Star Wars Space Battles.

He got outwitted by some rebels. For all his skills he lost against some scrubs.

I never once doubted Abrams. "I will FINISH what YOU started."

Best line from the new trailer.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Crushing an AT-AT. Best TK Feat against Inanimate objects in Canon.

Unless we're going by Legends in which case why would we ignore TFU and TFUII?

Still butthurt about Vader being the best supernatural pilot I see 😂

TFA will open your mind to the True Awesomeness of Star Wars Space Battles.

This is also very impressive:

Originally posted by quanchi112

I never once doubted Abrams.

He will teach you what Star Wars is all about. And what fans go crazy for:

The Space Battles.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He will teach you what Star Wars is all about. And what fans go crazy for:

The Space Battles.

For me it's lightsaber battles and ground combat but you love space battles more. That's fine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How many wins does Yoda get out of ten ?

7 or 8 times out of 10.
Vader's force abilities are probably near the level of Yoda's, and he's a very skilled duelist; what he lost in speed/agility he makes up for in power. But Yoda would be too fast for him and eventually beat him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
For me it's lightsaber battles and ground combat but you love space battles more. That's fine.

I love them both. Both combined make Star Wars as Awesome as it is. But TFA is clearly focusing more on the Space Battles, which I must admit I've missed. And clearly the fans are going crazy for it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Crushing an AT-AT. Best TK Feat against Inanimate objects in Canon.

Unless we're going by Legends in which case why would we ignore TFU and TFUII?

Because vast majority of games - including TFUs - exaggerates characters' abilities.

Besides TFUs, there is nothing in Legends, that would suggest that Vader can stomp even minor Jedi with his Force Powers. Minor, I assume Dark Woman for example. Not some folks like Shryne.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I love them both. Both combined make Star Wars as Awesome as it is. But TFA is clearly focusing more on the Space Battles, which I must admit I've missed. And clearly the fans are going crazy for it.
Space battles are fine but nothing compares in Star Wars to the lightsaber battles and the ground combat. The trailer showed tons of action which looks awesome.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Space battles are fine but nothing compares in Star Wars to the lightsaber battles and the ground combat. The trailer showed tons of action which looks awesome.

Well It wouldn't be a Star Wars film without a Lightsaber battle of course. But if they keep doing too many Saber battles it loses it's appeal. They have to keep them rare. Worked well for ROTS to be full of Saber fights, but they can't do that again for a while.

Whilst Space Battles can be used to make the rest of the film Awesome. And will play a big part of an epic finale, just like in ANH and ROTJ.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well It wouldn't be a Star Wars film without a Lightsaber battle of course. But if they keep doing too many Saber battles it loses it's appeal. They have to keep them rare. Worked well for ROTS to be full of Saber fights, but they can't do that again for a while.

Whilst Space Battles can be used to make the rest of the film Awesome. And will play a big part of an epic finale, just like in ANH and ROTJ.

Rots was the best for a reason for me. Abrams will know how to split up the action and make the most of the scenes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rots was the best for a reason for me. Abrams will know how to split up the action and make the most of the scenes.

Like I said, it worked for ROTS. But it would lose it's appeal quickly if they repeated that formula.

By the looks of things Abrams certainly understands the importance of Space Battles to the Star Wars Saga. That's all I'm saying.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Like I said, it worked for ROTS. But it would lose it's appeal quickly if they repeated that formula.

By the looks of things Abrams certainly understands the importance of Space Battles to the Star Wars Saga. That's all I'm saying.

I disagree and hope down the line we see more lightsaber battles. I don't need four per film but I don't want just one either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree and hope down the line we see more lightsaber battles. I don't need four per film but I don't want just one either.

Well there's bound to be more than 1 Saber fight given the number of players involved. But the Space Battles will be the majority of the Excitement. Abrams has made that clear in the trailers, and everyone's stoked for it.

Originally posted by McP
Because vast majority of games - including TFUs - exaggerates characters' abilities.

All mediums in Legends depicted Force Powers differently. Still when he overpowers other Jedi that counts, because the Jedi he overpowers are portrayed in the same medium.

Originally posted by McP
Besides TFUs, there is nothing in Legends, that would suggest that Vader can stomp even minor Jedi with his Force Powers. Minor, I assume Dark Woman for example. Not some folks like Shryne.

Even discounting TFU, his feats were such that it'd be silly to think he couldn't overpower Jedi/Sith of Kenobi and Ventress level with TK. Same goes for Windu.

Same with Canon Vader now. When his AT-AT Crushing feat is the biggest feat against Non-Living objects in Canon, is there really any doubt that he would overpower ROTS Kenobi or TCW Maul with his TK?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well there's bound to be more than 1 Saber fight given the number of players involved. But the Space Battles will be the majority of the Excitement. Abrams has made that clear in the trailers, and everyone's stoked for it.
So then I'll be happy. Quit speaking for other people. The action looks great and I've been excited about this the day Abrams signed on. Lightsaber battles are the best for me but you prefer space battles. Nuff said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So then I'll be happy. Quit speaking for other people. The action looks great and I've been excited about this the day Abrams signed on. Lightsaber battles are the best for me but you prefer space battles. Nuff said.

LOL Have you not seen the hype from people since the initial trailer when they saw the Millenium Falcon flying past those Tie Fighters? Of course I can speak for those fans who were all excited over that.

I never said I prefer space battles to Saber fights. But it's you, so keep trolling.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
LOL Have you not seen the hype from people since the initial trailer when they saw the Millenium Falcon flying past those Tie Fighters? Of course I can speak for those fans who were all excited over that.

I never said I prefer space battles to Saber fights. But it's you, so keep trolling.

Action is fine and great but acting like that's the main reason they are all excited is just wrong.

At the end of the trailer is a light saber tease. That's what makes Star Wars unique not space battles. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Action is fine and great but acting like that's the main reason they are all excited is just wrong.

At the end of the trailer is a light saber tease. That's what makes Star Wars unique not space battles. 🙂

LOL And plenty of fans were initially cursing the new Saber. But we're still buzzing over the trailer. Ergo I'm right, you're wrong.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
LOL And plenty of fans were initially cursing the new Saber. But we're still buzzing over the trailer. Ergo I'm right, you're wrong.
I was not one of them. The new saber looks cool and different. Also fits into the plot of the film. I've always backed this film unlike yourself. I'll be proven correct on December 17. I will always prefer the lightsaber battles you'll prefer the space battles.