Vaylin vs Darth Vader

Vader in everything relevant to a battle.

shut up

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Eh, she's a total boss, but it's nothing Vader hasn't done prior to reaching his own prime.

For the moment at least, I'll have Vader>Vaylin until her true power is shown.

I don't think I've seen him do something like that Sunpooper feat or whatever its called, personally.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
They are not comparable honestly.

Vaylin's top showings are superior to those of Darth Vader's in similar respect.

I'm not really going to argue this with you of all people, I'm uninterested in a debate and retired.

Now if you'll excuse me.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy

I'm not really going to argue this with you of all people, I'm uninterested in a debate and retired.

Now if you'll excuse me.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It is not overblown. You are terrible at scaling just like The_Tempest.

I am giving scaling another try:-

Check this image:

You can notice 3 arrows.

1. Top arrow points towards a multi-story structure that Vaylin initially targeted. Lets call it "bottom structure" since it rests below the "power core." It is like 15 stories tall.

2. Middle arrow points towards Lana Beniko and the Outlander. Notice how small they are in comparison to the surroundings?

3. Bottom arrow points towards gigantic trees that are like 10 stories tall each.

Now check this image:

You can notice 3 arrows.

1. Left arrow points towards the "bottom structure."

2. Middle arrow points towards the protagonists mentioned above.

3. Right arrow points towards the power grids that separate the "bottom structure" from the area where Vaylin will throw the chunks.

Now check this image:

You can notice 3 arrows.

1. Bottom arrow points towards the power grids that separate the "bottom structure" from the area where Vaylin is throwing the chunks. This time, angle is focused towards the area where chunks are being thrown by Vaylin.

2. Middle arrow points towards gigantic trees that are like 10 stories tall as pointed out by me earlier.

3. Top arrow points towards a massive chunk that is much larger then a bus in sheer size.

Now check this image:

You can notice a single arrow.

This arrow points towards a Starship that is passing by and it can be used for scaling purpose. The power core (itself) is like 10 stories tall.

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Clear enough?

Vaylin's showings are superior, period.

Vader lol.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy

Eh, she's a total boss, but it's nothing Vader hasn't done prior to reaching his own prime.

For the moment at least, I'll have Vader>Vaylin until her true power is shown.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Here:

Vaylin's showings are superior, period.

Lemme put it this way.

I do not have the years required nor the desire to indulge you.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Lemme put it this way.

I do not have the years required nor the desire to indulge you.

Here is a more detailed analysis: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t619116.html

Darth Vader have never destroyed a multi-story structure of comparable size, period.

In-fact, we haven't seen even the likes of Starkiller, Revan, Yoda and Darth Plagueis destroying multi-story structures that big.

We've seen Bane do it tho.

Implying that the ruined temple that Bane knocked down whilst amped is bigger than the cathedral Vader knocked down in a near-dead state.

Feel the pain of Bane's inferiority, Neph. It flows through every thread he's in.

Lol, it was much, much bigger. Maybe I'll take some screenshots when I run it.

Even accounting for it being in the ruined state and Bane being in a vastly greater condition in addition to his massive amplifications? Sure. 🙂

It wasn't in a ruined state and yeah even accounting for that. Considering it tanked Revans bombardment, its a hell of a feat. Bane wasn't in peak health either.

Lord Vader finds her lack of faith disturbing.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Lord Vader finds her lack of faith disturbing.

Everyone but Legend says Vader wins.

Vader dies.

Vader wins solidly.

I'd say this is possibly Legends Vader's best feat (at least if we disregard him Force gripping SK while holding back, as per Sam Witwer, though to be fair Sk was also somewhat tired), and it should be at least comparable to disintegrating Lyleks. And aside from feats, he was also indirectly compared to Yoda several times, which is pretty impressive.

Originally posted by Nargaroth
Vader wins solidly.

I'd say this is possibly Legends Vader's best feat (at least if we disregard him Force gripping SK while holding back, as per Sam Witwer, though to be fair Sk was also somewhat tired), and it should be at least comparable to disintegrating Lyleks. And aside from feats, he was also indirectly compared to Yoda several times, which is pretty impressive.

Vaylin tore a multi-story structure apart and hurled its massive chunks like missiles towards another building. As I stated earlier, you will be hard-pressed to find a comparable feat.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That structure was already fractured. Darth Vader just had to exert his power on the central segment and destroy it, the other two pieces fell down. An impressive showing but not comparable to Vaylin's monstrous feat: https://i.imgur.com/BytFLox.gifv

Vaylin tore a multi-story structure apart and hurled its massive chunks like missiles towards another building. As I stated earlier, you will be hard-pressed to find a comparable feat.

Except that Vader utterly disintegrated a sizable portion of that tower, which is much more impressive than tearing it apart, and there is no indication that he exerted himself much in doing so. The structure being already fractured is irrelevant, because that portion wasn't. And anyway, the tower was big enough to dwarf AT-STs in size. For the record, those walkers are something like 9 or 10 meter high, so that's very impressive.

Also, before his prime, Vader Force gripped SK while not only holding back, but basically throwing the fight.

This is all part of the plan. "Yeah, yeah, you know, he caught me off guard once. I'll let him beat me this time so he takes me captive."

-- Far, Far Away: Episode VIII: Sam Witwer

(1:21:45 - 1:22:20)

This is somewhat supported by the novel, where Starkiller notes, in the first part of the fight, that Vader was testing him, and in the second, Vader still didn't want to kill him.

For the record, Starkiller was strong enough to disintegrate half of a 300 meter frigate while simultaneously maintaining a Force Barrier.

And don't try to spout nonsense like it being exaggerated or inconsistent, because none of Vader's feats by that time (and by this I mean a few years before or after that point) contradict that, considering that the vast majority of his best showings were performed something like 17 or 18 years before TFU2, so nothing proves Vader is incapable of producing that level of power, given that he grew progressively stronger in the Force during those years. Also, the claim those feats are exaggerated can be applied to most of the EU, and considering that those kind of feats are being replicated in canon material, which is just as valid as the movies themselves, that would be an idiotic argument that could be only used because some people don't want some characters to reach a certain level. And considering that Vader was compared to Yoda (several times), even before TFU, that is quite telling he is above Vaylin.

Finally, Vader collapsed a cathedral while gravely wounded, and while he was in the underlevels of the structure. That happened 23 years pre prime, and it's honestly more impressive than Vaylin's showing. Many years after that point, he would certainly do much better.