The Villainization of Conservatism
American-hating liberals (the true villains) continue their neverending assault on true Americans:
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The Villainization of Conservatism
American-hating liberals (the true villains) continue their neverending assault on true Americans:
http://www.survivopedia.com/the-villainization-of-conservatism/?source=newsletter
Re: The Villainization of Conservatism
Originally posted by Star428
American-hating liberals (the true villains) continue their neverending assault on true Americans:
Irony alert, irony alert!
*Hands Star a ticket for complaining about villainization while actively villainizing and calling American citizens who don't agree with him not-true-Americans*
Re: Re: The Villainization of Conservatism
Originally posted by Q99
Irony alert, irony alert!*Hands Star a ticket for complaining about villainization while actively villainizing and calling American citizens who don't agree with him not-true-Americans*
He is speaking of the conservative principles this country was founded on. Not the f'fest that is America because of new progressive policies.
Re: Re: Re: The Villainization of Conservatism
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He is speaking of the conservative principles this country was founded on. Not the f'fest that is America because of new progressive policies.
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Exactly, TI. But liberals will never be able to understand that. They've fully bought into the liberal mainstream media's bullshit lying propaganda that conservatives are the evil ones when it's conservative principles that actually made this country great.
Re: Re: Re: The Villainization of Conservatism
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He is speaking of the conservative principles this country was founded on. Not the f'fest that is America because of new progressive policies.
Irony alert!
*Hands Time-Immemorial an irony ticket for insisting that a group of often-quite-secular intellectuals of a fairly wide variety of stances in a nation that welcomed immigrants heavily for most of it's history are the same as modern conservatives*
The Founding Fathers honestly aren't that close to either modern party, but the modern conservative principles often weren't even near their radar. It's a false history.
Remember, these are the people who insisted on a separation of church and state, and put the general welfare clause in the constitution, which Alexander Hamilton said was quite general in nature.
The only qualification of the generallity of the Phrase in question, which seems to be admissible, is this--That the object to which an appropriation of money is to be made be General and not local; its operation extending in fact, or by possibility, throughout the Union, and not being confined to a particular spot.No objection ought to arise to this construction from a supposition that it would imply a power to do whatever else should appear to Congress conducive to the General Welfare. A power to appropriate money with this latitude which is granted too in express terms would not carry a power to do any other thing, not authorised in the constitution, either expressly or by fair implication.
-Alexander Hamilton, noting the only limitation on what taxes for people's welfare should be spent on- that it should not be limited and not confined to any particular spot, but no objection should exist to the Federal Government taking action that promotes welfare and is general in nature.
Quite progressive, all in all.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Villainization of Conservatism
Originally posted by Q99
Irony alert!*Hands Time-Immemorial an irony ticket for insisting that a group of often-quite-secular intellectuals of a fairly wide variety of stances in a nation that welcomed immigrants heavily for most of it's history are the same as modern conservatives*
The Founding Fathers honestly aren't that close to either modern party, but the modern conservative principles often weren't even near their radar. It's a false history.
Remember, these are the people who insisted on a separation of church and state, and put the general welfare clause in the constitution, which Alexander Hamilton said was quite general in nature.
-Alexander Hamilton, noting the only limitation on what taxes for people's welfare should be spent on- that it should not be limited and not confined to any particular spot, but no objection should exist to the Federal Government taking action that promotes welfare and is general in nature.
Quite progressive, all in all.
Are you under the impression this actually matters?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Villainization of Conservatism
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Are you under the impression this actually matters?
To you? No, of course not. The founding fathers are your excuse, not your reason, so if they said the opposite then of course that won't change anything to you.
It just is the case many of them were much more progressive than you'd admit, and that modern conservativism is it's own thing and not based on their words like it claims.
Originally posted by Bentley
All politicians are villains.
Probably, but some evils are necessary.. Like guns, for instance; not that guns in and of themselves are evil but libs certainly try their darndest to convince everyone they are. When compared to liberals, conservatives are most definitely the lesser of the two evils. 👆