Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Luke already beat out Palpatine in DE, KEK.And before you say it was martial combat only, I'm pretty sure someone as strategic and cunning as Palpatine would have stomped Luke in the Force if he was much more powerful at that point in time. Instead of, you know, losing. Luke being > Palpatine shouldn't even be debated, LAWL.
Not going to entertain the Vitiate crap, I'm pretty sure the World Razer isn't humanoid. 😬
I wasn't talking about the Force-Storm though - that happen after Sidious lost in one-on-one combat. My point; if Sidious can't beat Luke in combat with his Force abilities, before he gained a substantial amount of power, what makes people think he could do it when Luke did reach his prime decades later?
I know, those Force Storms are pretty, but Luke himself mused his students could pull them off collectively, and I doubt a bunch of n00bs is more powerful in the Force than a prime Luke because of it.