Originally posted by The Ellimist
Well, now that I think about it, Sidious is hardly an infallible source, especially when he's pep talking Anakin.
Well, it's not like Sidious needed to boost Anakin's ego anymore, given that he had already achieved his goal, i.e. turning Skywalker to the dark side, and it's not like he isn't well aware of how powerful his predecessors were, so the quote should apply to almost all of them. Bearing in mind that this is pre prime Vader.
Besides, most, if not all of Sidious' opinions of Skywalker are actually true, aside perhaps from the instance where he said that Anakin was the best of all Jedi.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
Well, it's not like Sidious needed to boost Anakin's ego anymore, given that he had already achieved his goal, i.e. turning Skywalker to the dark side, and it's not like he isn't well aware of how powerful his predecessors were, so the quote should apply to almost all of them. Bearing in mind that this is pre prime Vader.
Do you think Sidious was just making that assertion for the sake of making it? In what universe would the truth-value of it be relevant to him at all? There's no reason to think that he paid attention to whether an unfalsifiable opinion of his is true or not.
Besides, most, if not all of Sidious' opinions of Skywalker are actually true, aside perhaps from the instance where he said that Anakin was the best of all Jedi.
How would Sidious know of whether Vader was the most skilled Sith ever or not?
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Do you think Sidious was just making that assertion for the sake of making it? In what universe would the truth-value of it be relevant to him at all? There's no reason to think that he paid attention to whether an unfalsifiable opinion of his is true or not.How would Sidious know of whether Vader was the most skilled Sith ever or not?
Your point?
Originally posted by Syndicate
Well I mean I would think it's only logical that he can sense how utterly and completely conflicted his apprentice is and to reassure him he would tell him he was more powerful then his predecessors to encourage the idea that they'll be able to find out how to bring back the dead.
That doesn't explain why Sidious would lie in that instance. It's not like he needed to overhype Anakin to reassure him that they could find those secrets. Those two things have no bearing on each other.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Power and the creation/discovery of new force abilities have no relation?K den...
No, I said discovery of new powers doesn't contradict Palpatine's assessment of Vader's power compared to previous Banite Sith, especially when Sidious himself didn't know or master those powers at the time as well, and that includes Midichlorian manipulation.
Originally posted by Nargaroth
No, I said discovery of new powers doesn't contradict Palpatine's assessment of Vader's power compared to previous Banite Sith, especially when Sidious himself didn't know or master those powers at the time as well.
Fair enough. I'm simply giving a reason why Sidious would have said that without having truly meant it. It's true it can't be disproved but that's one of the reasons I use to back up my assertion that Sidious was just ego boosting. Along with actual comparitive showings of course.