Darth Plagueis vs. Arcann and Vaylin

Arcann can tank on most of his attacks, and I have the gap between Vaylin and Vader only a slight margin smaller than her and Plagueis. It's a good fight, but team 10/10

LMFAO ^

Originally posted by Ursumeles
LMFAO ^

Darth Plagueis doesn't stands a chance here.

Lol.
Plagueis could oneshot either of them, as he is close to RotS Sidious, who is canonically > Valkorion, and SWTOR Vitate.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Lol.
Plagueis could oneshot either of them, as he is close to RotS Sidious, who is canonically > Valkorion, and SWTOR Vitate.

Arcann tanked Valkorion's FLS whose mere residual emissions were enough to down military-grade large Starships. He also endured lightsaber stabs and orbital bombardment from an entire fleet (on his flagship), though he was mortally wounded. His defenses are truly formidable.

Vaylin is the most powerful Force-user in the galaxy after Valkorion. More powerful than the Outlander and Arcann. And the Outlander has become the most powerful foe of Valkorion since chapter 12, stronger than Revan.

And Palpatine's superiority over Valkorion is suspect. Tell me something new.

Plagueis' lightning and TK aren't strong enough to one shot Arcann and possibly not strong enough to do so to Vaylin either. Arcann at least possesses more than adequate defenses to block his attacks for a good period of time.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Did he one-shot anybody of Arcann's strength? Not interested in unsubstantiated nonsense.

Arcann tanked Valkorion's FLS whose mere residual emissions were enough to down Starships. He also endured lightsaber stabs and orbital bombardment from an entire fleet (on his flagship), though he was mortally wounded. His defenses are truly formidable.

Vaylin is the most powerful Force-user in the galaxy after Valkorion. More powerful than the Outlander and Arcann. And the Outlander has become the most powerful foe of Valkorion, stronger than Revan.

And Palpatine's superiority over Valkorion is suspect. You cannot affirm it.

Valkorion was weakened, and wasn't it proved that his lightning just killed the pilot.

I think that is raw power wise, tbh.
Also, Outlander > Revan? Kek.

"The most powerful master over Sith Powers ever"

Vaylin (Empress) destroyed much of Voss. New rumors circulating.

What do you want to say....?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
He ragdolled 52BBY Palpatine 🙂

Valkorion was weakened, and wasn't it proved that his lightning just killed the pilot.

I think that is raw power wise, tbh.
Also, Outlander > Revan? Kek.

"The most powerful master over Sith Powers ever"

2. So? And his FLS electrocuted those Starships and everybody inside. Also, ever heard of auto-piloting?

3. Yes.

4. That source predates TOR.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
What do you want to say....?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
1. Evidence?

2. So? And his FLS electrocuted those Starships and everybody inside. Also, ever heard of auto-piloting?

3. Yes.

4. That source predates TOR.

2. That's nice. The other part of my post was more important tho. Evidence, btw?

3. No

4. And?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
1. He chokes him on a fest, but I don't have the book at hand, atm.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
2. That's nice. The other part of my post was more important tho. Evidence, btw?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
3. No

He evaded death by infiltrating the mind of the Outlander, his most powerful opponent.

From Knights of the Eternal Throne

Your dismissal is impotent.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
4. And?

Duo.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Did he one-shot anybody of Arcann's strength? Not interested in unsubstantiated nonsense.

Arcann tanked Valkorion's FLS whose mere residual emissions were enough to down military-grade large Starships. He also endured lightsaber stabs and orbital bombardment from an entire fleet (on his flagship), though he was mortally wounded. His defenses are truly formidable.

Vaylin is the most powerful Force-user in the galaxy after Valkorion. More powerful than the Outlander and Arcann. And the Outlander has become the most powerful foe of Valkorion since chapter 12, stronger than Revan.

And Palpatine's superiority over Valkorion is suspect. Tell me something new.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Not so sure the Outlander has surpassed Revan yet, despite the quote you're referring to. As Revan's feats are still obviously superior.

I think that the Outlander surpassed Revan after the events of Chapter 12.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The quote doesn't mean anything given:

a.) Revan was never an enemy of Valkorion.

b.) Revan was already dead when the quote was made.

c.) "Powerful" doesn't seem to be referring to Force power, since Arcann is more powerful than C2 Outlander and is likewise an enemy of Valkorion.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That information is new and significant. As for the feats, we have not witnessed the Outlander's capabilities in full. However, he was repelling Lightsaber blows and tanking Arcann's powers in Chapter 16.

I think that the Outlander surpassed Revan after the events of Chapter 12.

LMAO

That is an emotional response from DarthAnt66. It will take time for him to adjust to this new reality.

Revan was not a foe of Valkorion? WTF? Vitiate was already Valkorion during SWTOR.

In the context of that revelation, powerful refers to raw power and/or command of the Force of the character in question. The Outlander had no significant political standing at that point.

Wow damn, you totally countered the least significant of Ant's points.

Fact remains that Revan was dead when the quote was made, and Arcann>Outlander is so obvious it disproves the point you're trying to make.

I don't agree with Ant on a lot of shit, but this is hardly Ant desperately stretching and twisting facts to suit what he wants them to be... it's common ****ing sense.