Originally posted by Galan007I forgot to stipulate that I don't want people to use no limits fallacys for Doomsday. Just because he's adapted to most things thrown his way doesn't mean he can adapt to Deadman's possession of all things. That's ridiculous. 🙄
All Deadman adds is two-sided intangibility--his possession won't work on DD(not even once.)
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, Quicksilver adds little to nothing--DD is already fast enough to keep up with top-tiers. All Deadman adds is two-sided intangibility--his possession won't work on DD(not even once.)IOW, this is basically standard Sentry vs. H/P Doomsday... Which I'm sure has been done in the past.
has he tried
Originally posted by Don Draper*Fallacies
I forgot to stipulate that I don't want people to use no limits fallacys for Doomsday. Just because he's adapted to most things thrown his way doesn't mean he can adapt to Deadman's possession of all things. That's ridiculous. 🙄
Anyway, it isn't a no-limits fallacy to say that Deadman cannot possess Doomsday. Why? Because he already tried to possess DoS Doomsday... And failed miserably:
Would you like to stick another foot in your mouth now? 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007Anyway, it isn't a no-limits fallacy to say that Deadman cannot possess Doomsday. Why? Because he already tried to possess DoS Doomsday... And failed miserably:
I disagree with such an approach in general, because it straight up ignores canon and context:
Just because Doomsday was immune against Deadman's powers in the past, doesn't mean, that he is immune against them by default.
Throughout the years characters evolve and some even devolve. Sometimes characters evolve to a point, where something that has worked on them in the past, does not work on them in the future, or vice versa.
Here are few examples, starting with Doomsday:
- Doomsday was immune to Deadman's powers, because at that point Doomsday was not really sentinent and Deadman's powers only work on sentient beings.
The same applies for H/P Doomsday. That Doomsday was still not sentient. But later on there were stories, where Doomsday became sentinent. By default Deadman's powers WOULD work on Doomsday, unless he found a way to evolve past that mid fight (although that's a different debate).
- Martian Manhunter was weak to fire and has been defeated by it in the past, yet he had evolved to a point, where it didn't bother him anymore.
Can you use fire as a viable strategy against him? No, of course not.
- Sentry is another character, who is also relevant due to this thread: Sentry has been affected by physical damage in the past, but then there came a point in canon, where he realized what his powers were and from that point on not even getting his head sliced off, or his brains blown off, could stop him.
So putting such a character up against another character, who is purely a brawler becomes more pointless, than it would have been in the past.
The same can be said for Doomsday and Deadman. In the past it was obvious, how it would go, but Doomsday went through some changes, which would give Deadman a shot at taking over.
(But even in that case, Doomsday is a very special case, since there were so many different versions of him and the question always becomes, if that version was sentient enough for Deadman's powers to work).
Originally posted by EnzeruLaughable. I posted "canon." I posted "context." You're just ignoring the facts, in favor of trolling like you always do.
I disagree with such an approach in general, because it straight up ignores canon and context:Just because Doomsday was immune against Deadman's powers in the past, doesn't mean, that he is immune against them by default.
Again: Deadman tried to possess DoS Doomsday. He failed:
The notion that he could try to possess H/P Doomsday(the version specified in this thread), and inextricably be successful, is idiotic... Retarded, even.
You're still terrible at this. Respond back with more of the same, and you will be reported for trolling. 👆
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElGeez where is that high IQ of yours?
Right now it does not serve me much, since I can't recall who you are, no matter how hard I try.
Originally posted by Galan007Laughable. I posted "canon." I posted "context." You're just ignoring the facts, in favor of trolling like you always do.
You've just posted the same, wrong stuff again.
You're saying, that Deadman's powers don't work on Doomsday, because they didn't work on him during the DOS storyline.
I'm saying, that there is context to the story, which you're not even paying attention to. And that context is, that Deadman's powers only work on sentient beings.
DOS Doomsday was not sentient. Later on he became, which is where an interesting moment occured, where Superman took care of Doomsday far easier than ever before and told him that he had changed and now felt fear and shit.
So you're try to make points about characters by using 20 year old versions, even though 10 years later something happened, that changed the older version of the character.
Come on now, it's not that complicated, even for you :-7
Originally posted by EnzeruLook at this train-wreck of a post, lol.
You've just posted the same, wrong stuff again.You're saying, that Deadman's powers don't work on Doomsday, because they didn't work on him during the DOS storyline.
I'm saying, that there is context to the story, which you're not even paying attention to. And that context is, that Deadman's powers only work on sentient beings.
DOS Doomsday was not sentient. Later on he became, which is where an interesting moment occured, where Superman took care of Doomsday far easier than ever before and told him that he had changed and now felt fear and shit.So you're try to make points about characters by using 20 year old versions, even though 10 years later something happened, that changed the older version of the character.
Come on now, it's not that complicated, even for you :-7
I don't care about random versions of Doomsday who aren't in this thread. HUNTER/PREY Doomsday is the specific version listed in the OP, so THAT is the specific version I am referring to, obviously.
And you yourself stated that H/P Doomsday is not sentient, and therefore not controllable by Deadman:
Originally posted by Enzeru
Doomsday was immune to Deadman's powers, because at that point Doomsday was not really sentinent and Deadman's powers only work on sentient beings.
The same applies for H/P Doomsday. That Doomsday was still not sentient.
...So you have already defeated your own argument. At this point, you're just arguing with yourself.
You are terrible at this. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007You are terrible at this.
I'm not calling you out on the version on the Doomsday version. I'm calling you out on trying to be a smart-ass about no limits fallacy:
No matter which Doomsday version, you would have used that DOS instance scan to prove your point, while ignoring context.
How I know that? Well, for one you gracefully edited your prior post, after you realized that I was talking about the same in my earlier posts and after another user mentioned it as well.
And then you have also a funny track record of twisting context to your needs, trollololo.
Originally posted by EnzeruAh, so now you're telling me what kinds of arguments I would have made in your theoretical e-verse, eh? Lol, trolls be trolls.
I'm not calling you out on the version on the Doomsday version. I'm calling you out on trying to be a smart-ass about no limits fallacy:
No matter which Doomsday version, you would have used that DOS instance scan to prove your point, while ignoring context.
It was wise of you not to keep cramming your foot down your throat, though. You dug yourself into a hole, realized it, and then tried to red-herring your way out via faux-intellectual insults and whatnot.
You're terrible at this. 😂
Originally posted by Galan007It was wise of you not to keep cramming your foot down your throat, though. You dug yourself into a hole, realized it, and then tried to red-herring your way out via pseudo-insults and whatnot.
Not really. What stands written in my last post, also stands written in my first post. It's all about you using an out of context approach to make garbage arguments.
We've danced this dance before in other Sentry threads, where I gave you a PTSD and prohibit you to enter any more Sentry threads. So get the hell out of here.
Originally posted by Enzeru😂
Not really. What stands written in my last post, also stands written in my first post. It's all about you using an out of context approach to make garbage arguments.We've danced this dance before in other Sentry threads, where I gave you a PTSD and prohibit you to enter any more Sentry threads. So get the hell out of here.
We're done here. You were glaringly wrong, you realized it, that pissed you off, so you started lashing out... That's your thing... It's all you really do.
Anywho, I don't need to partake in a discussion with you any further. You may have the last word that you so desperately crave. Indulging in childish bashing isn't my thing. 👆
