WHO on Processed Meats

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/oct/26/bacon-ham-sausages-processed-meats-cancer-risk-smoking-says-who

Well this sucks.

That's too bad but it's not about to stop me from eating any of it that's for sure. I'd go crazy without being able to eat meat. It'd probably turn me into a damn democrat or something. LOL. No thanks, I'll pass... Granted, that's a worst case scenario though. It'd probably just make me extremely irritable.

I remember seeing a documentary a couple of years ago about the potential carcinogenic effects of smoked meats. All it did was make me hungry. Gonna die of something anyway.

Originally posted by jaden101
I remember seeing a documentary a couple of years ago about the potential carcinogenic effects of smoked meats. All it did was make me hungry. Gonna die of something anyway.

Sure, but it's this mentality that leads to, say, dying at 55 instead of 75. Or having health complications that severely hurt your standard of living for years. I've heard arguments like this before, but I'm unconvinced that they hold as much merit as some people think. To me, it always just seemed like deferring responsibility to a future, less-healthy version of yourself.

Now, I don't begrudge anyone that decision/rationale. Your life and health choices are your own. I'm also not advocating removing meat from one's diet. But, tbh, we've known that red meat consumption increases risk of cancer for years. The data is similar with heart attacks. And there are healthier sources of anything you get from meat (protein and iron, primarily). It's all statistical - you could be healthy and die tomorrow, or be a slob and die at 102 - but there are statistically relevant things everyone can do to decrease their risk.

I tend to limit meat consumption; it's helped me to eat healthier and has drastically expanded my palette to include foods I never even considered before.

Originally posted by Star428
That's too bad but it's not about to stop me from eating any of it that's for sure. I'd go crazy without being able to eat meat. It'd probably turn me into a damn democrat or something. LOL. No thanks, I'll pass... Granted, that's a worst case scenario though. It'd probably just make me extremely irritable.

I hope the Democrat line is a joke, but it's always a bit hard to tell with you. Most can't eliminate meat without either being really unhappy or actually hurting their diet, so it's not a decision that's smart for some.

But I have a vegetarian friend who has been asked, with no irony or sarcasm, if he's gay bc he doesn't eat meat. Which, ya know, lulz bc of the double entendre. But it's also telling on how much misinformation there is surrounding dietary choices.

Originally posted by Digi
Sure, but it's this mentality that leads to, say, dying at 55 instead of 75. Or having health complications that severely hurt your standard of living for years. I've heard arguments like this before, but I'm unconvinced that they hold as much merit as some people think. To me, it always just seemed like deferring responsibility to a future, less-healthy version of yourself.

Now, I don't begrudge anyone that decision/rationale. Your life and health choices are your own. I'm also not advocating removing meat from one's diet. But, tbh, we've known that red meat consumption increases risk of cancer for years. The data is similar with heart attacks. And there are healthier sources of anything you get from meat (protein and iron, primarily). It's all statistical - you could be healthy and die tomorrow, or be a slob and die at 102 - but there are statistically relevant things everyone can do to decrease their risk.

I tend to limit meat consumption; it's helped me to eat healthier and has drastically expanded my palette to include foods I never even considered before.

I hope the Democrat line is a joke, but it's always a bit hard to tell with you. Most can't eliminate meat without either being really unhappy or actually hurting their diet, so it's not a decision that's smart for some.

But I have a vegetarian friend who has been asked, with no irony or sarcasm, if he's gay bc he doesn't eat meat. Which, ya know, lulz bc of the double entendre. But it's also telling on how much misinformation there is surrounding dietary choices.

It's not deferring responsibility at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. I understand fully that some meats, alcohol etc can be bad for me. I just don't care. I don't only eat those things. I don't lead a sedentary lifestyle. I don't do those things to extend my life. I do them cos I enjoy doing them. Some make me healthier and some make me less healthy.

Originally posted by jaden101
It's not deferring responsibility at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. I understand fully that some meats, alcohol etc can be bad for me. I just don't care. I don't only eat those things. I don't lead a sedentary lifestyle. I don't do those things to extend my life. I do them cos I enjoy doing them. Some make me healthier and some make me less healthy.

That's a reasonable clarification. I've literally just heard "Gonna die someday anyway" as justification for all sorts of unhealthy habits. I suppose living in the US Midwest doesn't help - our obesity numbers are comically higher than the coasts, to say nothing of the rest of the world.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/i-am-the-greatest-thing-of-all-time-says-bacon-2013030761993

Bacon has to be the most overrated food ever. That's different than saying it's bad. It's delicious. But so are sooooo many other foods. I can name a dozen foods or dishes off the top of my head that i like as much. But about 10 years ago 'murica got a bacon boner that it beat into the ground until it ruined bacon for some people. It smells better than it tastes anyway. I'm a fan, but the levels of fervency from some are hilarious.

"What we do know is that avoiding red meat in the diet is not a protective strategy against cancer,” said Robert Pickard, a member of the Meat Advisory Panel and emeritus professor of neurobiology at Cardiff University. “The top priorities for cancer prevention remain smoking cessation, maintenance of normal body weight and avoidance of high alcohol intakes."

Not to come in with another "but I like mah meat" response, but this article doesn't seem anti-meat. It appears to draw a line between processed meats like sausage/salami and other meats like beef and poultry. The former group seems definitely linked to cancer with the latter having very little risk if not consumed in ridiculous amounts.

Originally posted by Digi
Bacon has to be the most overrated food ever. That's different than saying it's bad. It's delicious. But so are sooooo many other foods. I can name a dozen foods or dishes off the top of my head that i like as much. But about 10 years ago 'murica got a bacon boner that it beat into the ground until it ruined bacon for some people. It smells better than it tastes anyway. I'm a fan, but the levels of fervency from some are hilarious.

I eat red meat maybe once a week, and in terms of processed meat, the only one I eat regularly is turkey bacon, which I should probably cut down on.

Americans need to realize that the key to eating healthy is vegetables, beans, beans, lentils, beans, split peas, beans, more lentils, and a shit ton more beans. You can adequately replace meat in many recipes with lentils and/or black beans, and after a while of eating those recipes you stop missing the meat that was in them. (That's how it is with me and burritos. Since I started making lentil burritos I've never looked back)

You must fart a lot

You're right about the beans though, read a study awhile back that found the communities with the longest mean lifespans had a moderate to heavy bean consumption, along with being active.

Originally posted by Digi
Sure, but it's this mentality that leads to, say, dying at 55 instead of 75. Or having health complications that severely hurt your standard of living for years. I've heard arguments like this before, but I'm unconvinced that they hold as much merit as some people think. To me, it always just seemed like deferring responsibility to a future, less-healthy version of yourself.

Now, I don't begrudge anyone that decision/rationale. Your life and health choices are your own. I'm also not advocating removing meat from one's diet. But, tbh, we've known that red meat consumption increases risk of cancer for years. The data is similar with heart attacks. And there are healthier sources of anything you get from meat (protein and iron, primarily). It's all statistical - you could be healthy and die tomorrow, or be a slob and die at 102 - but there are statistically relevant things everyone can do to decrease their risk.

I tend to limit meat consumption; it's helped me to eat healthier and has drastically expanded my palette to include foods I never even considered before.

I hope the Democrat line is a joke, but it's always a bit hard to tell with you. Most can't eliminate meat without either being really unhappy or actually hurting their diet, so it's not a decision that's smart for some.

But I have a vegetarian friend who has been asked, with no irony or sarcasm, if he's gay bc he doesn't eat meat. Which, ya know, lulz bc of the double entendre. But it's also telling on how much misinformation there is surrounding dietary choices.

Originally posted by long pig
Did you ever try his meat?

😂

Originally posted by Robtard
You must fart a lot

You're right about the beans though, read a study awhile back that found the communities with the longest mean lifespans had a moderate to heavy bean consumption, along with being active.

Originally posted by long pig
Your people eat a lot of beans and work out(side) and run (from the law) alot, yet they die in their 50s mostly.

😂

Originally posted by long pig
Did you ever try his meat?

Nah, I only eat white meat.

#fullracist

So what I'm taking away from all this is that I can counteract the destructiveness of red meat by eating a bunch of beans aferwards. Sounds like Taco Bell is the healthiest food around. Consider it done.

Originally posted by BackFire
So what I'm taking away from all this is that I can counteract the destructiveness of red meat by eating a bunch of beans aferwards. Sounds like Taco Bell is the healthiest food around. Consider it done.

Some beans and colon blow should fix you up nicely.

Originally posted by Digi
Nah, I only eat white meat.

#fullracist

Originally posted by Robtard
You must fart a lot

You're right about the beans though, read a study awhile back that found the communities with the longest mean lifespans had a moderate to heavy bean consumption, along with being active.