Originally posted by Surtur
That or a problem with police compliance. Of course the truth is there is a big big problem with both.
There are plenty of examples of cops who are able to handle non-compliant perps without resorting to unnecessary violence. Anyone who'd use non-compliance as an excuse for police brutality is an idiot willing to accept sloppy policework.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Nope, police violence.There are plenty of examples of cops who are able to handle non-compliant perps without resorting to unnecessary violence. Anyone who'd use non-compliance as an excuse for police brutality is an idiot willing to accept sloppy policework.
But uhh, nope to your nope. We have both problems. Saying most cops handle non-compliance better does not equate to there being a problem with people not doing shit a cop tells them. If we didn't have a problem with it you'd rarely hear examples of dipshits not complying.
If you wanted to say we have a problem with cops being unable to handle non-compliance better then okay, but again this doesn't negate we have a violence and non-compliance problem.
Yes, but the thing is I never said they should be complied with unconditionally..I said we have a problem with mother*ckers who think they can not comply with some shit they have zero business not complying with. It's not a rare thing you hear about someone not complying and it's usually not because the cop is being unjust but because the criminal doesn't want to be punished for being a criminal. It's the old "I wanna have my damn cake and eat it too" conundrum.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yes, but the thing is I never said they should be complied with unconditionally..I said we have a problem with mother*ckers who think they can not comply with some shit they have zero business not complying with. It's not a rare thing you hear about someone not complying and it's usually not because the cop is being unjust but because the criminal doesn't want to be punished for being a criminal. It's the old "I wanna have my damn cake and eat it too" conundrum.
Not really. Using appropriate force is important whether someone complies or not, whether someone committed a crime or not.
Of course criminals perpetrating crimes is a problem, but you constantly bringing it up in thread about police violence really just seems like attempts to distract from the very real issue.
Originally posted by SurturYou sound like a boot licking commie.
But uhh, nope to your nope. We have both problems. Saying most cops handle non-compliance better does not equate to there being a problem with people not doing shit a cop tells them. If we didn't have a problem with it you'd rarely hear examples of dipshits not complying.If you wanted to say we have a problem with cops being unable to handle non-compliance better then okay, but again this doesn't negate we have a violence and non-compliance problem.
Get out of my country.