What Bardock said. It wouldn't take much to swing the SC the other way, so it's of utmost importance to have a Prez who agrees with you in office when a vacancy occurs.
That said, regardless of your views, I think abortion is an overblown issue. In terms of life, health care and environmental issues affect SO many more people. Add that to the needles polarization on the topic, making true discussion next to impossible, and you can see why I hate the issue.
Re: Presidential beliefs
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Why do people care if a president believes in abortion or not?Pretty sure the SC ruled it was legal.
Because there's still a legal struggle to restrict the number of places/put additional hurdles in place/remove hurdles that said struggle has put in place/etc. etc.. Like, there's places where the nearest clinic is hundreds of miles away due to restrictions placed on the clinics. And some people want to put in mandatory waiting times. So in order for someone to have an abortion, they have to drive hundreds of miles, twice. So there's naturally a fight over whether it's legal to do that/require that. And heck, there's even people who try and stop things like morning after piles (which are not in any way an abortion- conception's not instant, it takes til about a week after the act).
I mean, I *wish* it was a done issue, but it's not.
There's a great line in The West Wing - by a Republican, no less - asking that voters not demand that politicians display their religious beliefs, because it's the easiest lie they'll ever tell you. I'm of the mind that very few politicians are devout, on either side. We just necessitate that they lie to us about it due to our behavior, media coverage, and voting habits. In the end, they'll say and vote for what gets them elected.
Re: Presidential beliefs
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Why do people care if a president believes in abortion or not?Pretty sure the SC ruled it was legal.
First of all, who are you and what have you done with TI?
Just because the SC rules in favor of something doesn't make it right. They also ruled that gay marriages are now legal and that's practically giving God (the real One) the middle finger. Yes, they're both legal in the eyes of man now but to God they're an abomination. These judges on the SC made think they're the "supreme judges" but on Judgment Day they will find out just how wrong they were. 👆
Re: Re: Presidential beliefs
Originally posted by Star428
First of all, who are you and what have you done with TI?Just because the SC rules in favor of something doesn't make it right. They also ruled that gay marriages are now legal and that's practically giving God (the real One) the middle finger. Yes, they're both legal in the eyes of man now but to God they're an abomination. These judges on the SC made think they're the "supreme judges" but on Judgment Day they will find out just how wrong they were. 👆
You mis understand, people love to talk about abortion, as if the president can change it..
You're right to an extent, because the Prez can't do anything directly. But Supreme Court appointees are no joke. Abortion isn't the only issue on the line with them, either. So it's a valid consideration, even if I think it's valid because of the totality of the SC's power, not just on this one issue.
Also, abortion isn't exactly a bastion of rational discussion, on either side. There are probably those who think the President CAN do something about it directly.
Re: Re: Re: Presidential beliefs
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You mis understand, people love to talk about abortion, as if the president can change it..
Not legally, no. But, Obama disregards the Constitution all the time and makes up his own laws with all of his "executive orders" he decrees. Now, he talking about changing the second amendment (as if that's in ANY way whatsoever legal without proper ratification).
Also, Digi makes a strong point in that the President can appoint whom he wants to the Supreme Court so he can just appoint Justices who have the same stance as himself on certain key issues.