Malgus, Maul, Savage vs Yoda

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Originally posted by ares834
Sorry I completely disagree with the notion that Palpatine could have ended the fight whenever he wanted.
He could send them back with TK then kill them with lightning or something to end them. He could also separate them easily like he actually did and then kill them one at a time in seconds. So perhaps thats not instant but it still falls into "Whenever he wants to" category. This is of course after he decides to dual them. If he was going in for a short fight then we wouldn't even see a dual.

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Of course you agree.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Of course you agree.
I often agree with common sense.

Originally posted by ares834
Sorry I completely disagree with the notion that Palpatine could have ended the fight whenever he wanted.

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Sidious was definitely toying with them.

Toying=/=kill at anytime

Originally posted by ares834
Toying=/=kill at anytime

lol, it actually does.

When a cat play (toys) with its food, it can kill its prey at any time.

Lol, no it actually doesn't.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/toying

"To amuse oneself; play"

Originally posted by Q99
He did make a difference against Sids in the saber portion.

Emphasis mine.
We have seen that Sidious was capable of ragdolling the brothers at once with the Force. The saber portion of the fight just happened because Sidious wanted it to happen. He could have just killed the brothers with his force powers. And Yoda is, at the very least, his equal in force powers.

Yoda wouldn't kill the brothers, though. But it illustrates quite nicely that, in a contest of force abilities, the two Zabraks would be nothing but bystanders.

And in sabers? Let's face it: Yoda could handle the attacks of three Jedi Masters (one of them being Depa Billaba), without even bothering to ignite his own weapon and without bothering to move much. In fact, reading the description of that particular lesson once again, it now appears to me, like Yoda did to the trio what Valkorion was doing to Arcann. Just using the Force to make himself untouchable by their sabers. [That's mere speculation of course.]

Still, that probably means that none of the trio would be capable of touching Yoda with a lightsaber. So how do they win?

They would need to attack in a really coordinated fashion in order to take Yoda down. But this would involve (just as example) Malgus attacking Yoda with the Force while the brother launch a melee attack on him. And I don't see that working out for the trio, mainly because I don't see Malgus above Dooku level in terms of force abilities. And Yoda was very well capable of dealing with Dooku in terms of force powers - almost casually. So even if Malgus attacks him with the Force, chances are that one of the brothers will be on the receiving end of such an attack (e.g. deflected Force Lightning). And if they close in, Yoda would tool them with his lightsaber - or just ragdoll them with the Force.

So it really comes down to Yoda vs. Malgus after a while (imho), and the Sith won't win that one, even if Yoda has to deal with the brothers first.

Well in the novel it states that he dealt with his Dooku's lightning "with difficulty". And Malgus in terms of force feats is at the very least comparable to Dooku in terms of force power. Savage and Maul also have much better synergy that the Jedi masters, and together they can at least give a challenge.

Its a good fight for sure, though.

Darth Malgus is definitely better then Count Dooku.

Originally posted by ares834
I never got the sense that he "humiliated" them. He is clearly the superior combatant but the Brothers put forth a valiant effort and even managed to get a few licks of their own in.

? Aren't you of the opinion that Obi-Wan legitimately beat these two on Florrum due to superior ability?

This is tantamount to putting Obi-Wan pretty close to Sidious and we know Obi-Wan doesn't even register.

Only if we use faulty A>B>C logic.

And I don’t honestly believe that Kenobi can typically beat the brothers in a duel. Maul alone is enough of a challenge for him. And even if I did (and I don’t) that still wouldn’t mean Kenobi is close to Sidious as Sidious beat them decisively whereas Kenobi didn’t.