Colossus vs Midnighter

Colossus, in his metal form, doesn't need to breathe. He has no real weaknesses.

Colossus

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Colossus, in his metal form, doesn't need to breathe. He has no real weaknesses.

How would you know? You are as far from being an X-Men expert as carver is from becoming a nuclear scientist.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
How would you know? You are as far from being an X-Men expert as carver is from becoming a nuclear scientist.

I have absolutely no idea what you're babbling about, I've read probably more comics (American, Asian and European) than you, so get off your high horse.

This being said, the Colossus stuff is basic knowledge. No need being an X-Men expert.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
How would you know? You are as far from being an X-Men expert as carver is from becoming a nuclear scientist.

Not jumping on the bandwagon, but genuinely curious as to who the Colossus, or even general X-Men people on this board are. Bar me and you I mean. There were more, but I see them so rarely nowadays.

Yo.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I've read probably more comics (American, Asian and European) than you, so get off your high horse.

Thanks, I needed that.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
This being said, the Colossus stuff is basic knowledge. No need being an X-Men expert.

No, it's not. It's been discussed in many threads back in the day.

Fact - in the classic Claremont era, Colossus was scared of not being able to survive in vacuum after his space suit got torn apart.

Then there is this contradicting that:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/38919/1066173-colossus_can_breathe_underwater.jpg

Inconsistent, that's what it is.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not jumping on the bandwagon, but genuinely curious as to who the Colossus, or even general X-Men people on this board are. Bar me and you I mean. There were more, but I see them so rarely nowadays.

King definitely is. Juggernaut74, too. Colossus' respect thread has the most replies of them all and is #3 when it comes to views.

You are right, there were many more. We had quite a few Wolverine and Emma Frost fans, for example. Not anymore.

His power description as well as a few examples show he doesn't need to breathe, although for some reason space is bad for him. It's weird.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Thanks, I needed that.

No, it's not. It's been discussed in many threads back in the day.

Fact - in the classic Claremont era, Colossus was scared of not being able to survive in vacuum after his space suit got torn apart.

Then there is this contradicting that:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/38919/1066173-colossus_can_breathe_underwater.jpg

Inconsistent, that's what it is.

King definitely is. Juggernaut74, too. Colossus' respect thread has the most replies of them all and is #3 when it comes to views.

You are right, there were many more. We had quite a few Wolverine and Emma Frost fans, for example. Not anymore.

Isn't that an alt universe colossus?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Isn't that an alt universe colossus?

Miiiiiiiight be. I'll be honest, I found the scan on comicvine - and they are known for using non-canon scans, like from comics based on the X-Men cartoon from nineties and stuff like that...

Hoping Pr will clarify - he's working on the revamped Colossus thread, so he should know.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Miiiiiiiight be. I'll be honest, I found the scan on comicvine - and they are known for using non-canon scans, like from comics based on the X-Men cartoon from nineties and stuff like that...

Hoping Pr will clarify - he's working on the revamped Colossus thread, so he should know.

Yea im pretty sure that was an alt universe colossus and thw reason he depowered was some mutant lose power device.

He was depowered by Mags. The others all had breathing gear, but noooooooo Colossus doesn't need to breathe!

Well look who's laughing now, Russkie!!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He was depowered by Mags. The others all had breathing gear, but noooooooo Colossus doesn't need to breathe!

Well look who's laughing now, Russkie!!!

Werent they all depowered in that scene? Colossus just realized it first

Originally posted by KingD19
Yo.

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea im pretty sure that was an alt universe colossus and thw reason he depowered was some mutant lose power device.

Pretty sure it's canon, but I'll double check.

Edit: It's UXM 150. So yes, canon. The first of quite a few mentions of "i don't breathe in armoured form" mentions.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Thanks, I needed that.

No, it's not. It's been discussed in many threads back in the day.

Fact - in the classic Claremont era, Colossus was scared of not being able to survive in vacuum after his space suit got torn apart.

Then there is this contradicting that:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/38919/1066173-colossus_can_breathe_underwater.jpg

Inconsistent, that's what it is.

King definitely is. Juggernaut74, too. Colossus' respect thread has the most replies of them all and is #3 when it comes to views.

You are right, there were many more. We had quite a few Wolverine and Emma Frost fans, for example. Not anymore.

I might be looking for opinions before I post it, as I want to make sure I didn't leave anything out. i'm on 2014 now, so almost at the end.

Thx pr..couldve sworn that was an alt colossus. Iirc did he breathe in space during breakworld?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Thx pr..couldve sworn that was an alt colossus. Iirc did he breathe in space during breakworld?

Not that I recall. Though it's not just a space thing; Colossus supposedly doesn't breathe at all in metal form, whether in an atmosphere or not.

Supposedly it's the vacuum itself, not the lack of oxygen that affects his skin. Might be the temperature or something, though he's been shown in space without gear on at least once recently, during the X-Force books.

I honestly don't know what it is about space that makes it different. He has no problem being underwater for example.

Originally posted by -Pr-
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Pretty sure it's canon, but I'll double check.

Edit: It's UXM 150. So yes, canon. The first of quite a few mentions of "i don't breathe in armoured form" mentions.

Thanks.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I might be looking for opinions before I post it, as I want to make sure I didn't leave anything out. i'm on 2014 now, so almost at the end.

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Be sure to include stuff like Gillen answering the question about Colossusnaut... some argue about that (looking at you, King), but he made it clear that bald Colossus w/o the helmet was operating at normal power levels, IIRC. That way we can use feats like his fight against Rhodes.

Narrator from pre-Whedon Astonishing X-Men (Apocalypse arc) mentioned Colossus was able to stalemate Thing and Thor in the past. Very nice, even if it falls into "unseen + untold tales" category.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thanks.

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Be sure to include stuff like Gillen answering the question about Colossusnaut... some argue about that (looking at you, King), but he made it clear that bald Colossus w/o the helmet was operating at normal power levels, IIRC. That way we can use feats like his fight against Rhodes.

Narrator from pre-Whedon Astonishing X-Men (Apocalypse arc) mentioned Colossus was able to stalemate Thing and Thor in the past. Very nice, even if it falls into "unseen + untold tales" category.

I had thought the whole "helmetless" thing was blatantly obvious. He took damage in his steel form a couple of times, then transformed in to the Juggernaut and he was almost magically healed.

Or literally healed by magic.

The Twelve? Or the stupid one with Gambit becoming Death?

This is good stuff either way; I don't want to leave anything out.

Originally posted by juggernaut74

Yeah that's one of the few i'd collected before seeing that the handbooks themselves say he doesn't need to breathe.

it might take a long time but pete wins in the end. if there is an environment to use, it might help one or the other. pete has thunderclapped, but not sure how effectively. ripping chunks of ground or toppling buildings might help, and doubtful the debris would help mn all that much....