Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSo you're no-limits fallacy-ing this guy?
He doesn't have many showing, and thus not many feats; some guys unloaded on him in the negative zone to no effect...Butterballs only real power is total invulnerablility and limitless stami; he isn't strong, fast, and cant do anything else...thus him being meta despite complete invulnerability...
Please stop. If you cannot support your opinion with anything of substance, then please don't post at all.
Originally posted by Galan007
So you're no-limits fallacy-ing this guy?Please stop. If you cannot support your opinion with anything of substance, then please don't post at all.
Argue with Butterballs writer...
Look him up; total invulnerability is his power; no limits fallacy doesn't apply here because complete invulnerability is what he was created to be and he's never been damaged in anyway in all his appearances...
I knew you wouldnt like the answer, but so what...
A fact is a fact; deal with it...
Kitty wins this thread as per the writing of the OP...
Butterball wins going with the spirit of the thread...
Deal with it...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYour 'position' is based on imposing a no-limits fallacy on a character who primarily has statements to his credit, and no real feats to unequivocally back them up. You seem to be a fan of this type of debating 'style', which is fine. That's your thing. I just don't want you to infect my thread with this crap. 👆
Reported for telling the truth?😂
Go right ahead....my position is solid...Butterball wins.
To reiterate again: I only care about what can be definitively proven(via feats) in this thread... Which is something you cannot do.
You are trolling just to troll. Please stop.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Without feats, it's not really something you can argue tbh. Yeah, his powerset is supposedly total invulnerability, but we've so rarely seen it tested, if at all.
I get what you're saying PR; he's never faced any extreme attack, that's tested the limits of his Invulnerability...
Nevertheless, every single one of his appearances features his Invulnerability being absolute...
That combined with the writers intent for the character points to him withstanding the attack in the OP..doesn't it?
Originally posted by Galan007
Your 'position' is based on imposing a no-limits fallacy on a character who primarily has statements to his credit, and no real feats to unequivocally back them up. You seem to be a fan of this type of debating 'style', which is fine. That's your thing. I just don't want you to infect my thread with this crap. 👆To reiterate again: I only care about what can be definitively proven(via feats) in this thread... Which is something you cannot do.
You are trolling just to troll. Please stop.
No, I'm not trolling; I'm adding factual data here...
Butterball was written to be a completely invulnerable mutant; all of his appearances support the writers vision of what he should be...
He should be able to tank the attack in the OP without difficulty...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No, I'm not trolling; I'm adding factual data here...Butterball was written to be a completely invulnerable mutant; all of his appearances support the writers vision of what he should be...
He should be able to tank the attack in the OP without difficulty...
Would he be immune to Celestials, the Living Tribunal, Beyonders, as well, then?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Would he be immune to Celestials, the Living Tribunal, Beyonders, as well, then?
Everyone you just named is below a writer at Marvel; just be aware of that fact...
A writer at Marvel penned this character to be totally invulnerable, but not able to do anything else; he can be overpowered and placed in hand cuffs...put in a cage...tied up...but he's completely invulnerable.
I didnt write this guy; some guy at Marvel did, and every single one of his showings demonstrates the writers vision of Butterball...and that vision highlights his complete invulnerability.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Everyone you just named is below a writer at Marvel; just be aware of that fact...A writer at Marvel penned this character to be totally invulnerable, but not able to do anything else; he can be overpowered and placed in hand cuffs...put in a cage...tied up...but he's completely invulnerable.
I didnt write this guy; some guy at Marvel did, and every single one of his showings demonstrates the writers vision of Butterball...and that vision highlights his complete invulnerability.
Not my question, though.
Are you saying he would be immune to Celestials, the Living Tribunal, Beyonders as well, then?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No, I'm not trolling; I'm adding factual data here...Butterball was written to be a completely invulnerable mutant; all of his appearances support the writers vision of what he should be...
He should be able to tank the attack in the OP without difficulty...
Isn't that the guy that tanked Wolverine claws without flinching?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I get what you're saying PR; he's never faced any extreme attack, that's tested the limits of his Invulnerability...Nevertheless, every single one of his appearances features his Invulnerability being absolute...
That combined with the writers intent for the character points to him withstanding the attack in the OP..doesn't it?
Outside of this board, sure, you could say that.
But people get called "invulnerable" all the time in comics, until they meet something that makes them vulnerable.
He works as a joke answer for this thread, but not as a serious one. Not without a solid body of feats.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
This is my answer to your question DarkSaint...Feel free to argue with the writer of Butterball however...
But I didn't ask for 'facts'.
I asked for your opinion - I don't see why you wouldn't/can't give me a straight answer.
Yes/No: Are you saying he would be immune to Celestials, the Living Tribunal, Beyonders as well, then?
I already know what he was written to be - I too read comics. I know what his showings SO FAR have shown - I have read them too.
But just relying on what has gone before can be tricky. Tomorrow, the writers at Marvel may decide to change their stance. Or upgrade his status.
After all, that's why we're on this forum, right? It's not all set in stone.
So, in your opinion, Yes/No: Are you saying he would be immune to Celestials, the Living Tribunal, Beyonders as well, then?