Nekron Vs Flash Racer

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Zack M Senior Member

Nekron Vs Flash Racer

Who wins?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Nekron is more powerful/potent, imo... Though I can't imagine this battle resulting in anything but a stalemate.

We'll just have to wait and see what they do with 'Racer before any final conclusions can be definitively drawn. /shrug

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Nekron. More powerful with the feats and fights to back it up.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Very true, and I agree.

I just can't think of how Nekron could defeat an embodiment of death, though..? Maybe absorb it? Maybe sever Black Racer's connection to Flash?

SquallX Senior Member

Since Nekron is a higher aspect than racer, couldn't he just either control him or severed his connection to Death?

deathslash Pyromaniacal Humanitarian

Originally posted by SquallX
Since Nekron is a higher aspect than racer, couldn't he just either control him or severed his connection to Death?
mind if I ask how he's a higher aspect?

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by deathslash
mind if I ask how he's a higher aspect?

He's not a 'higher aspect' since he, Death of the Endless, and Nekron are all aspects of Death.

Black Racer : Death as Inevitability
Death of the Endless : Death as Compassionate Release
Nekron : Death as Cosmic Certainty and the Ultimate Opponent

Nekron had better on panel fights and feats than Black Racer so we're going with him. That's the point we're trying to make.

Cogito Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
He's not a 'higher aspect' since he, Death of the Endless, and Nekron are all aspects of Death.

Black Racer : Death as Inevitability
Death of the Endless : Death as Compassionate Release
Nekron : Death as Cosmic Certainty and the Ultimate Opponent

Nekron had better on panel fights and feats than Black Racer so we're going with him. That's the point we're trying to make.

You could argue, and I would, that Death of the Endless was created to be top dog. Then this came out, but was again retconned back by Luthor's chat following Blackest Night.

deathslash Pyromaniacal Humanitarian

Originally posted by zopzop
He's not a 'higher aspect' since he, Death of the Endless, and Nekron are all aspects of Death.

Black Racer : Death as Inevitability
Death of the Endless : Death as Compassionate Release
Nekron : Death as Cosmic Certainty and the Ultimate Opponent

Nekron had better on panel fights and feats than Black Racer so we're going with him. That's the point we're trying to make.

that's what I thought. I just have one question. Is nekron above darkseid? I ask this because it's been made very clear on more than one occasion that racer is above ds.

"Id" The Man of Tomorrow

But it was a combined attack.

Something akin to Galacuts-Surfer Herald my rage feat.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Cogito
You could argue, and I would, that Death of the Endless was created to be top dog. Then this came out, but was again retconned back by Luthor's chat following Blackest Night.

What of the Luthor chat? Nothing was retconned. People claim Death "casually dismissed" the Blackest Night Scenario but that's just her 'bubbly' personality.

She was like this with Lucifer too.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Cogito
You could argue, and I would, that Death of the Endless was created to be top dog. Then this came out, but was again retconned back by Luthor's chat following Blackest Night.
Her status as just one aspect of Death was also retconned a year later in Books of Magic, wherein Death of the Endless was revealed to be THE last being/concept to survive when all of creation ends--outlasting even Destiny himself. Where embodiments of Death are concerned, she is undoubtedly the top dog.

Originally posted by zopzop
People claim Death "casually dismissed" the Blackest Night Scenario.
People probably claim this because it is absolutely true. 👆

Blockythe1guy Senior Member

What if New 52 Anti-Monitor teams up with Black racer in this battle?

Would it change the outcome?

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Galan007
People probably claim this because it is absolutely true. 👆

Yes, it's true she has a bubbly attitude :

operator616 Senior Member
Originally posted by deathslash
that's what I thought. I just have one question. Is nekron above darkseid? I ask this because it's been made very clear on more than one occasion that racer is above ds.

From what i remember there was one instance in which Darkseid literally swatted away the black racer. On another occasion, when Scott free inherited Highfather's (who's Darkseid's peer) powers, he was able to stomp the racer.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by operator616
On another occasion, when Scott free inherited Highfather's (who's Darkseid's peer) powers, he was able to stomp the racer.
In all fairness, Scott used BR's own equipment against him there.

operator616 Senior Member
Originally posted by Galan007
In all fairness, Scott used BR's own equipment against him there.

Yes but let's not forget that he forcibly took it away and stomped him with it. That shows clear superiority from what i can tell.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Oh I agree that New God-Scott was decisively more powerful. Just saying that it seemed like incapacitating BR required using his own equipment/tech against him(otherwise why even bother to usurp it from him?) /shrug

Anyway, here's their 'fight' for those who've not seen it:

-Mister Miracle v3 #04

Mind you, this was same series where Scott noted that the New Gods can casually create their own universes:

So the writer(Kevin Dooley) obviously intended the New Gods to be operating on a very high level in that series.

operator616 Senior Member

^ On top of that, Black Racer was shown to have a personal dimension of his own (Hadis) in that series. That's also a further testament of his power