Star Trek: Discovery

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Pretty much. Enterprise started out slowly but once the Xindi/Sphere builder arc kicked in it was great. Plus Shran.

Voyager watered down the franchise's best villains simply for lack of creativity on the part of the writers, though we did get Seven of Nine's collection of body suits as part of the deal. I also found most of the Chakotay based episodes offensive as f*ck. Space Indians, bruh? Really? That was right up there with the TNG season 1 Space Africans that had huts with automatic doors and ritualistic Mortal Kombat sessions on a death laser reinforced jungle gym.

Robert Beltran (Chakotay himself) was pretty vocal about how badly they treated him, iirc.

Yep. Not to mention the space Irish.

Originally posted by Robtard
Some of my favorite Enterprise eps dealt with the Augments (like Khan) and how they tied that in to retroactively explain why Klingons in the TOS were basically dark-skinned humans with goatees instead of the crabheads we know them to be now.

If you've not seen them, it's worth the watch even if you hated Enterprise and quit early on. All Season four:

-Borderland
-Cold Station 12
-The Augments

-Affliction
-Divergence

👆 Solid episodes.

Originally posted by Ushgarak

My hope is that we one day get a Star Trek series where the final episode is actually any damn good.

i'll be happy if they don't screw up the entire last season like they did with ds9.

Voyager Series 2 on its way!

Originally posted by Robtard
Some of my favorite Enterprise eps dealt with the Augments (like Khan) and how they tied that in to retroactively explain why Klingons in the TOS were basically dark-skinned humans with goatees instead of the crabheads we know them to be now.

If you've not seen them, it's worth the watch even if you hated Enterprise and quit early on. All Season four:

-Borderland
-Cold Station 12
-The Augments

-Affliction
-Divergence

Is the whole of S4 worth watching?

I thought so, as I feel Enterprise wasn't the heaping pile of many others feel it is.

But if you're not a fan on Enterprise, it's still worth watching those six episodes back-to-back for the Augment and Klingon lore.

Originally posted by Robtard
I thought so, as I feel Enterprise wasn't the heaping pile of many others feel it is.

But if you're not a fan on Enterprise, it's still worth watching those six episodes back-to-back for the Augment and Klingon lore.

👆

Will give them a watch since I'm in the mood for some new Trek episodes (but not sucky ones). Pretty sure I've seen the first 3 you mentioned many many years ago, but will watch them again before watching the last 2 you've said.

Speaking of series finales it was Enterprise that got the BIGGEST shaft. It went beyond just being bad and was actually disrespectful to the entire cast.

Originally posted by Surtur
I actually enjoyed the NuTrek films. They were of a faster pace then the other films, but I didn't dislike it. I thought Kirk and Spock were spot on with casting and mannerisms. I thought most of the casting was spot on. I liked the little things they added as well like the reason McCoy is called "Bones". The lens flares were awful though.

With that said I have always felt that Trek is best as a series, not a movie or even a trilogy of movies. It's about exploration, not of just one place, but of many. You need more then 1 or 2 or 3 films to do it justice.

I also enjoyed Enterprise, I was intrigued by the time war storyline. I actually prefer TNG over any other Trek show, my least favorite for some reason is DS9.

The original series was also good and some episodes could mess with your head. Like the episode where Spock is possessed by an alien..you see Spock actually smiling all throughout the episode. This just comes off as deeply unsettling because you've never really seen him smile. Though the dickery of Shatner on set is also legendary. Also Gene Rodenberry could be a tool as well.

Funny thing is though as much as there seems to be a rivalry between Trek and Star Wars...we have more Star Trek as a direct result of SW's. The success of SW's was what made them decide to make the films and then those films eventually lead to various new series. Perhaps this is why some do not like NuTrek, JJ Abrams has flat out said he was looking at the movie as a Star Wars fan. In other words, thinking to himself "Okay when is the moment Luke see's the twin suns" etc. That's another reason the pace of the new films seems to be quicker.

I remember being excited before "Star Trek Into Darkness" came out because there were rumors the main villain would turn out to be Gary Mitchell.

Oh cool, I'll be able to watch this without any extra subscriptions or illegal downloads:

http://variety.com/2016/digital/global/netflix-exclusive-international-new-star-trek-series-1201816219/

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh cool, I'll be able to watch this without any illegal downloads

Well now I've lost all interest I had for this

new show is called Star Trek: Discovery

http://deadline.com/2016/07/star-trek-tv-series-comic-con-50th-anniversary-panel-bryan-fuller-william-shatner-brent-spiner-1201791545/

So it's another prequel series:

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2016/08/11/star-trek-discovery-will-have-a-female-lead-is-set-10-years-before-kirk-took-command-of-enterprise

Let's hope this female lead has more screen presence then typically boring Janeway was.

Set in the prime timeline sounds like the old regime. Shame.

Originally posted by Robtard
Let's hope this female lead has more screen presence then typically boring Janeway was.

Presence yes, time no. I really don't want to see it be about two characters more than anyone else.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Presence yes, time no. I really don't want to see it be about two characters more than anyone else.

Agreed, Trek's more enjoyable when the character focus is wide and not narrow, aside from the occasional character-specific driven episode. Those are a mix bag for me, eg Worf centric eps were great, La Forge, not so much.

hate that this is set 10 years prior to Kirk.. also hope the female captain is take charge and badass instead of wimpy Janeway

Originally posted by Robtard
Agreed, Trek's more enjoyable when the character focus is wide and not narrow, aside from the occasional character-specific driven episode. Those are a mix bag for me, eg Worf centric eps were great, La Forge, not so much.

But La Forge episodes always dealt with how much he got thrown around, which was ten times worse than Worf.

TNG was a decent balance, but I honestly think DS9 had the best template. I don't think there was a single character in that show that felt wasted. Hell, even Ezri, that got a total of one whole season, still got plenty of attention.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
But La Forge episodes always dealt with how much he got thrown around, which was ten times worse than Worf.

Was never much of a La Forge fan I guess. Don't dislike the character, but I'd bever name him a favorite.