Warcraft (2016)

Started by Zack M44 pages

BTW, we also know how much advertising cost. 110 MILLION. Who knows if Legendary/Universal has to pay for it all, but Deadline pointed it out. I'll post it AGAIN.

The bigger play for this $160M production +$110M P&A vehicle is overseas. Global B.O. currently stands at $286.1M with 55% coming from China. Industry sources tell Deadline that breakeven is at $500M worldwide.

It depends on the movie. You take production cost then add marketing cost then the studio needs to make about twice that in box office(due to the studio only getting back about half of ticket sale money). Then there are cuts taken out of that money for actors or producers sometimes. Then studios often get money back from locations which will give them money to film there as an incentive as well as for product placement in some movies. Then you also have money which is made off of rentals, ppv and disk sales after the theater run. So there are many factors in play when you talk about how much money a movie needs to make from box office to turn the studio a profit. Deadline.com sometimes does profit breakdowns which include all of these factors to give a close estimate of how much money a studio actually made off of a movie. Warcraft has a $160m production budget and then prob spent $80m or more on marketing which is why it needs to make $500m in order to break even just off of box office returns. That is just one part of the whole revenue picture though. The studios make a lot off of post theater revenue. Plus a movie like Warcraft will have lots of merchandising tie ins.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Golgo and Dt are ignoring my link confirming my china matters logic. Most successful video game franchise film of all time.

Actually breakeven should be 540. Not 500. Double 270 and it's definitely not 500. However, minus 40 is probably due to not paying all the P&A.

Originally posted by Zack M
Actually breakeven should be 540. Not 500. Double 270 and it's definitely not 500. However, minus 40 is probably due to not paying all the P&A.
Continue to ignore the link I posted from the other day. Golgo you're wrong all the time. Look at all your batman v superman predictions which turned out to be laughably off.

Originally posted by Zack M
They got their sources from another party.

That's hardly makes it a fact

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That's hardly makes it a fact

Yes, but I think I'll take the industries word. Plus, read the paragraph above. Marketing cost 110 million, so it's no surprise that 500 is break even.

Originally posted by Zack M
Actually breakeven should be 540. Not 500. Double 270 and it's definitely not 500. However, minus 40 is probably due to not paying all the P&A.

Too many estimates. We just don't know the exact amount they're receiving from it. But if they've announced a sequel then they must at least be breaking even.

Golgo ignores the links which speak of a sequel. Why would they entertain the thought of a sequel if this didn't make a profit ?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Too many estimates. We just don't know the exact amount they're receiving from it. But if they've announced a sequel then they must at least be breaking even.

Maybe we'll get news from Comic-con, but the movie was highly frontloaded. I don't see it making much profit at all.

Golgo we don't care what you think. 😉

Originally posted by Zack M
Maybe we'll get news from Comic-con, but the movie was highly frontloaded. I don't see it making much profit at all.

Same as BvS tbh. And that sequel is already filming.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Same as BvS tbh. And that sequel is already filming.

Difference with BVS is that it wasn't frontloaded in every territory.

Warner spent more money on BvS than Universal spent on Warcraft.

Warcraft also bombed in a few territories. 😂

Originally posted by Zack M
Difference with BVS is that it wasn't frontloaded in every territory.

It was overall WW, because it opened in every territory on the same weekend. And it's OW was 420mill WW and its final WW Total was 870mill so not much more than double the OW.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It was overall WW, because it opened in every territory on the same weekend. And it's OW was 420mill WW and its final WW Total was 870mill so not much more than double the OW.

It had record breaking numbers in Argentina, Mexico, and US, IIRC. Warcraft straight up flopped in America and Japan, among a few others.

Originally posted by Zack M
Warcraft also bombed in a few territories. 😂
Overall. China is huge these days and only getting bigger.

Originally posted by Zack M
It had record breaking numbers in Argentina, Mexico, and US, IIRC. Warcraft straight up flopped in America and Japan, among a few others.

Opening numbers yes. But Domestic and WW BvS was heavily front loaded. It basically made Half of its total on OW.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Opening numbers yes. But Domestic and WW BvS was heavily front loaded. It basically made Half of its total on OW.

I know, I'm just pointing out it wasn't frontloaded in every territory, like Warcraft. Warcraft made half of what BVS made.

Originally posted by Zack M
Warcraft made half of what BVS made.

Of course. But it also cost a lot less. In Production and Marketing.

They were both heavily front loaded, and both had terrible legs. The only thing BvS's performance has going for it over Warcraft is a decent domestic total (which usually guarantees profit tbh).

But in terms of legs and frontloadedness, they were both terrible.