Black Bolt vs Silver Surfer - Hand to Hand

Started by carver96 pages

Originally posted by One-Punch
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It's worst than low-balling, it's blatantly false. And him claiming Spider-man is stronger than Surfer is Boardwalker level trolling.

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What are people using to say bb wins? His fights with other heralds?

H2H? BB would win and both are above Hulk.

Sigh

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What are people using to say bb wins? His fights with other heralds?

His ability to match characters more physically formidable than Surfer.

Surfer has the edge in durability and about even in strength I would say. BB has much better skill but Surfer has better reflexes. I give this to Surfer.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What are people using to say bb wins? His fights with other heralds?

His fights with Gladiator.

Black Bolt trading blows with Gladiator is impressive.

But I don't see how it's more impressive than Surfer trading blows with Krosakis who had Gladiator's power stacked with the Uni-Power, or Surfer beating down Beta Ray Bill with a couple of punches, or Surfer stomping a very amped Skaar with his fists, or Surfer physically tearing apart a Doombot who had just stolen his Power Cosmic, or Surfer grappling evenly with amped Champion, or Surfer catching Ronan's hammer and KOing him with a punch, or Surfer almost killing Super Skrull with a punch and etc, etc.

You've listed some nice feats, I'll give you that.

Any plans on a new SS respect thread in the future? 😛

is there even such a thing as 'base' strength for ss? he matched morg in strength as well. but it's impossible to say when he is or isn't amped by pc. i'd say bolt COULD ko him. but it's easy to believe ss could raise himself at a level that would def exceed bb's limits... ss h2h threads are almost impossible to determine with any consistency.

Originally posted by leonidas
but it's impossible to say when he is or isn't amped by pc.

Similar with IF and his stupid chi stolen from a dragon.

Originally posted by panthergod
His ability to match characters more physically formidable than Surfer.

Like who?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You've listed some nice feats, I'll give you that.

Any plans on a new SS respect thread in the future? 😛

I've actually thought about it since most of the links in the Surfer Respect thread are dead. I've been slowly re-reading all of Surfer's stuff for fun and cataloging his feats as a hobby, I could probably easily convert it to a respect thread. 😛

Originally posted by leonidas
is there even such a thing as 'base' strength for ss? he matched morg in strength as well. but it's impossible to say when he is or isn't amped by pc. i'd say bolt COULD ko him. but it's easy to believe ss could raise himself at a level that would def exceed bb's limits... ss h2h threads are almost impossible to determine with any consistency.

Nowadays I think he's usually portrayed as easily class 100 and doesn't amp his strength that often, unless you include charged fists.

Not sure if you'd count this as a strength feat but Surfer did recently slam a moon into Galactus. I don't see why he couldn't channel that same amount of power into his strength/punches.

Originally posted by One-Punch
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Surfer's bio states he can augment his strength to "incalculable levels" and his strength is rated 7/7 in the bio.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24285422/SS_BIOS_Page_3.jpg.html

Spider-man's strength rated 4/7.

Thing never beat amped Surfer H2H. As soon as Surfer amped far passed Thing's strength via atomic strength--Thing shat his pants and fled.


Well, Breevort said he was weaker than Black Panther. And my bad, it was shown that he was same level in strength.

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And Ben KTFO him in the very same issue. What are you describing is Ben hitting an energy field and hurting himself.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Black Bolt trading blows with Gladiator is impressive.

But I don't see how it's more impressive than Surfer trading blows with Krosakis who had Gladiator's power stacked with the Uni-Power, or Surfer beating down Beta Ray Bill with a couple of punches, or Surfer stomping a very amped Skaar with his fists, or Surfer physically tearing apart a Doombot who had just stolen his Power Cosmic, or Surfer grappling evenly with amped Champion, or Surfer catching Ronan's hammer and KOing him with a punch, or Surfer almost killing Super Skrull with a punch and etc, etc.


Because he doesn't looks good in h2h. For example in Krosakis scene he was not going for h2h. It was energy blasts mainly.

Skaar has been beaten by pretty much every top tier he has faced.

He suckerattacked bill.

Drax casually koed same champion.

This is how a genuine class 100 looks.
Drax didn't even punch champion, it was more like a tap.


Surfer vs Champion who is greatly amped.

Surfer flat out stated that Champion now rivals him in power.

Drax vs Champion.

Drax was just a peer to Thor and Merged Hulk and flat out inferior to Savage Hulk.

Thor was essentially manhandling him recently while he was wounded.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he doesn't looks good in h2h. For example in Krosakis scene he was not going for h2h. It was energy blasts mainly.

Skaar has been beaten by pretty much every top tier he has faced.

He suckerattacked bill.

Drax casually koed same champion.

This is how a genuine class 100 looks.
Drax didn't even punch champion, it was more like a tap.

Thor was essentially manhandling him recently while he was wounded.


Silver Surfer is class 100.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, Breevort said he was weaker than Black Panther. And my bad, it was shown that he was same level in strength.

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That back page stuff from retarded Spiderman books is always so wrong. Sooo much wrong with it, even in that particular era, I don't even know where to begin.

Still, thanks for posting.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Silver Surfer is class 100.

The weakest class 100 then. Even in Marz run, Ben flat out overpowered him while he was trying to restrain him.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That back page stuff from retarded Spiderman books is always so wrong. Sooo much wrong with it, even in that particular era, I don't even know where to begin.

Still, thanks for posting.


Yeah, it's wrong for the most part.

Btw, Brevoort also confirmed that Thor is slower than Logan.

So we have Tieri, Brevoort and the comic itself (statements from Wolverine and Thor) proving that Thor is inferior 👆

B-but Thor reacted to some random laser twenty years ago!! He's in the same class in reflexes as Superman!!!!!!

Ask rage and ODG!!!!