RoTS Obi Wan runs a gauntlet

Originally posted by Selenial
Ti.

I've argued this before. Kenobi's above her as a duelist, but mainly as a defensive duelist. His offensive capabilities shouldn't eclipse hers. His style revolves around playing the defensive and waiting for his opponent to slip up, but that would require him surviving against her Force Powers up until a time where she does slip up. I'm not even confident she would, she was a Jedi whose ability to manipulate battles was as famous as Windu's skill, Yoda's wisdom or Mundi's courage. She'd know Kenobi was waiting for a mistake, and wouldn't give him the opportunity.

Don't mistake me, I don't believe Shaak Ti is a greater battlefield tactician or duelist than Kenobi, but form for form she comes out stronger, and her skill set almost seems designed to exploit the flaws in his...

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
The guy who TK'd thousands of droids easily, by himself?

Why is everyone lowballing Galen?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Probably the fact that the game makers specifically stated that TFU was an exaggeration of Force powers.

Which doesn't in any way lower his feats or accolades 💃

Except it does... mmm

Everything is exaggerated now cuz of Legends. Even Bandon.

Even...... YOU!

Except it doesn't. They stated they wanted to show an exaggeration of Force Powers through their game mechanics, firstly, so cutscenes don't matter.

Secondly, what their intention was, was irrelevant. The way they allowed people to experience the Force exaggerated and at it's full potential was by allowing people to take control of an insanely strong Force Wielder with full use of the environment around them, unlike most Star Wars games before that.

Originally posted by Selenial
Except it doesn't. They stated they wanted to show an exaggeration of Force Powers through their game mechanics, firstly, so cutscenes don't matter.

Secondly, what their intention was, was irrelevant. The way they allowed people to experience the Force exaggerated and at it's full potential was by allowing people to take control of an insanely strong Force Wielder with full use of the environment around them, unlike most Star Wars games before that.

While true it doesn't really matter. That feat was in the book, so all their over-the-top force portrail quote doesn't mean shit.

Except the book is supposed to convey the same thing?

The book is even more over the top. By a lot.

Considering the novel is Legends Canon you none of you actually have the authority to dispute it. 😬

Can we also get a source on it being exaggerated? Just out of interest.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Considering the novel is Legends Canon you none of you actually have the authority to dispute it. 😬

Can we also get a source on it being exaggerated? Just out of interest.

It seems to be a hot topic lately:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/starkiller-vs-dooku-1744368/?page=1#js-message-15795272

And for the record, this is what the gamemakers actually said:

"The Apprentice is the photo negative of Luke Skywalker. He's been raised by Darth Vader, and is what Luke would have become if he had joined his father. Vader's not a very nice daddy. This guy has been raised to be a Jedi. When the Jedi use the Force, they respect it and don't overuse it. The bad guys - the Sith - keep testing their limits. Vader discovered this person who had the potential to be the most powerful Force user ever. He's up there with the top tier. He's extremely powerful. Vader has trained him in such a way that he just kept pushing his limitations, seeing how far he could use the Force. So, where a normal Jedi might use the Force to trick his way past a few stormtroopers, the apprentice might use the Force to bring down an adjacent building on top of those stormtroopers. He's extremely confident in everything he does. He's been trained by Vader to be an assassin, an unstoppable force."

--Hayden Blackman, Star Wars Insider 100

So Sel is correct essentially.

While thats clearly inaccurate because no ****ing way does Starkiller have more potential than Anakin or Luke, no-ones disputing SK's a near-top tier force user. It's just that he's on Vader's level and the abilities he shows like force pushing thousands of droids or exploding capital ships are clearly overblown and over the top.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Could Vos do what Ti did against Galen?

ABC.

Yes. However I believe Felucia was a light side nexus while Vos is drawing on the dark side so I suggest you look at the context before you retort.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yes. Since Dooku>Galen IMO. However I believe Felucia was a light side nexus while Vos is drawing on the dark side so I suggest you look at the context before you retort.

There is no such thing as a light side nexus, so I suggest you familiarize yourself with the mythos before you retort.

I like how you're talking shit while being wrong. There are indeed Light Side nexus. Try again.

Originally posted by Nephthys
While thats clearly inaccurate because no ****ing way does Starkiller have more potential than Anakin or Luke, no-ones disputing SK's a near-top tier force user. It's just that he's on Vader's level and the abilities he shows like force pushing thousands of droids or exploding capital ships are clearly overblown and over the top.

> uses author quote to show it's exaggerated
> refuses to listen to author quote about how it's exaggerated

The famed double standards of Nephthys everybody. I'd say check them out while you still can, but apparently they never fade away.

Originally posted by Nephthys
While thats clearly inaccurate because no ****ing way does Starkiller have more potential than Anakin or Luke, no-ones disputing SK's a near-top tier force user. It's just that he's on Vader's level and the abilities he shows like force pushing thousands of droids or exploding capital ships are clearly overblown and over the top.

While yes Hayden could be argued to be laying it on a bit thick, the fact remains he makes it abundantly clear that they intended to achieve a video game with "over-the-top" "amped up" powers not by exaggerating the player's abilities, but creating a character with powers that far outstrip the majority of those prexisiting in the EU in power with Luke-tier potential.

You're claims that its "overblown" and "over-top" are subjective, not objective grounds for dismissing licensed material, on the same basis I could dismiss the Ones' ability to tear apart the fabric of the universe, Abeloth being 12 times more powerful than Luke, or Darth Nihilus lifting a battlecruiser of a planet literally being crushed by gravity, as over-the-top nonsense as well, but that would be stupid.

Fact is these abilities are not beyond that of a Force-sensitive, "it's illogical" therefore doesn't fly.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
There is no such thing as a light side nexus, so I suggest you familiarize yourself with the mythos before you retort.

A vergence is a place where the Force concentrates like a whirlpool in a flowing river. That place may be a small cave or an entire planet where light and dark constantly vie for surpremacy.

...

One lesser known vergence that Nexus of Power introduces to Force and Destiny is the Wellspring of Life, a type of legendary, light side vergence that can only be found with the Force as your guide.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/11/2/nexus-of-power/

Shaak Ti was amped confirmed.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
There is no such thing as a light side nexus, so I suggest you familiarize yourself with the mythos before you retort.

I was always under the impression that THE VALLEY OF THE JEDI was pretty close. 😉

Felucia didn't Shaak use Kinatite on that planet, an ability not even Darth Vader could use without being close to a force boosting artifact. So yea there are light side nexus as well as Dark Side. Most likely aren't as well known, but still.

Also Dooku and Vos are greater than Ti and Galen in terms of deuling. So yes I see Vos taking Galen down with his blade, so I'm not seeing your point.