Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Grundy had and has adapting powers btw. and to my knowledge Grundy was an inspiration to Hulk.If anything Doomsday shares more similarities with Grundy than Hulk. No alter ego, if he dies he comes back with adapted powers, design, color, super strength, invulnerability etc.
1962 First appearance, cover.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Hulk_1_cover.jpgSolom Grundy first appeared 1944
Here a cover 2 years prior to the first appearance of Hulk.
Justice League of America (1960 1st Series)
https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/868203.jpgNothing bad being inspired by Grundy imo, Hulk has traits of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde too, so the twist is there.
Its ok that Hulk is the inspiration for Doomsday. Every ability you named in this post came from Hulk. Now let's stop derailing your amazing thread so that People can add their comments.
I have no trouble believing that some aspects of Doomsday were at least partially inspired by Hulk - the rage increases his strength thing for example.
But now that everyone is discussing it, when exactly did Hulk's adaptive abilities show up? Didn't things like Hulk growing gills and breathing in space and Fury saying he can adapt to things actually come after Doomsday? They didn't really use to make a thing about Hulk adapting his body/powers in the old issues. They did add abilities like being able to see astral forms, but those weren't adaptations as such as they didn't happen in response to the situation. Likewise adaptation hasn't been a big thing in the Hulk since then either.
Are there any instances of Hulk's body adapting to a situation, like growing gills, before Doomsday's first appearance, or did Hulk actually borrow from Doomsday in that respect? I'm trying to remember instances of them actually referring to feats as adaptation.
Originally posted by carver9
Grundy and Hulk are not similar to me, at all. It doesn't just take super strength to make a character similar.Everything about Doomsday and Hulk are similar tbh. Some more obvious than most.
Both ramp up in strength due to their anger.
Both use the jumping method as a means of transportation.
Adaptive abilities (basically a physical change to their bodies. Hulk growing gills and Doomsday ear covering itself in bone because of a sonic attack).
Super speed
Agility to touch and grab energy.The list goes on and on. I don't get what the issue is. They are basically the same character except one has bone covering the skin while the other leaks radiation.
there's more to characters than powersets, carver.
Originally posted by carver9
Both Doomsday and Hulk are rampaging monsters.
Ok let's break it down.
Grundy - Hulk
Similarities 7
Super Strength
Super Durability
Healing Factor
Low Intellect
Adapting Powers (Hulks are rather low)
Ripped Pants
Grey Skin Frankenstein look (Original Hulk)
Differencies 2
No alter ego for Grundy
Ressurection ability for Grundy
Hulk - Doomsday
Similarities 6
Super Strength
Super Durability
Healing Factor
Low Intellect
Adapting Powers
Grey Skin Frankenstein look
Differencies 3
No alter Ego for Doomsday
Ressurection ability for Doomsday
Boneclaws
Grundy - Doomsday
Similarities 8
Super Strength
Super Durability
Healing Factor
Low Intellect
Adapting Powers
Grey Skin Frankenstein look
No alter Ego
Ressurection ability
Differencies 1
Boneclaws
So I disagree with your assumption. Hulk is based on Grundy as much as Doomsday is based on Grundy, Hulk and Wolverine.
Now let's move on to other inspirations, shall we? ^^
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
👆I am not too familiar with Miracleman ^^.
What was the void persona inspired by, has Marvelman something like this?
He has Kid Miracleman. Although he isn't an imagined persona.
You can also add this,
Meridian and Anti-Meridian inspired by the Sentry and Void. They were created in a comic series called Deathmatch written by Paul Jenkins.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Ok let's break it down.Grundy - Hulk
Similarities 7
Super Strength
Super Durability
Healing Factor
Low Intellect
Adapting Powers (Hulks are rather low)
Ripped Pants
Grey Skin Frankenstein look (Original Hulk)Differencies 2
No alter ego for Grundy
Ressurection ability for GrundyHulk - Doomsday
Similarities 6
Super Strength
Super Durability
Healing Factor
Low Intellect
Adapting Powers
Grey Skin Frankenstein lookDifferencies 3
No alter Ego for Doomsday
Ressurection ability for Doomsday
BoneclawsGrundy - Doomsday
Similarities 8
Super Strength
Super Durability
Healing Factor
Low Intellect
Adapting Powers
Grey Skin Frankenstein look
No alter Ego
Ressurection abilityDifferencies 1
Boneclaws
So I disagree with your assumption. Hulk is based on Grundy as much as Doomsday is based on Grundy, Hulk and Wolverine.
Now let's move on to other inspirations, shall we? ^^
Lol...skin color. Anyways, I said what I had to say. Hulk and Doomsday are exactly alike. Let's move on please.
Originally posted by carver9
Both Doomsday and Hulk are rampaging monsters.
And Grundy isn't?
All of the justifications you're using to compare Doomsday and Hulk, could easily be the same if you swapped in Grundy for either one.
Not to mention how in portrayal, Grundy is far more like Hulk than Doomsday is.
You use one argument to say why Hulk and Doomsday are similar, but say that the exact same argument doesn't apply to Hulk and Grundy. Something fishy there.
In totality, Grundy and Hulk have more in common with each other than either of them has with Doomsday.
Originally posted by -Pr-
And Grundy isn't?All of the justifications you're using to compare Doomsday and Hulk, could easily be the same if you swapped in Grundy for either one.
Not to mention how in portrayal, Grundy is far more like Hulk than Doomsday is.
You use one argument to say why Hulk and Doomsday are similar, but say that the exact same argument doesn't apply to Hulk and Grundy. Something fishy there.
In totality, Grundy and Hulk have more in common with each other than either of them has with Doomsday.
No...Grundy isn't as destructive as either Doomsday nor Hulk.
Grundy hasn't shown any of the things I've listed for Doomsday and Hulk minus strength.
Doomsday and Hulk.
Healing powers.
Strength amping via rage.
Jumping as a means of transportation.
Super speed.
Adapting
All of these are abilities that both of these two have and Grundy does not share.
