Originally posted by relentless1
I agree Cap would survive...Zod would kick the shit out of Thor though....lets not kid ourselves here that is where this thread is headed...
I won't say "kick the shit" out of Thor, though I do agree Zod would win. But if the competition was who can create the most destruction in a single hit, then Thor would win.
I think a better question for this thread would be: If Thor was allowed unlimited time to fully amp his Mjolnir shot, could Cap still block that?
Originally posted by juggerman
Would a continuous blast of heat vision be considered a single hit? If so Zod might be able to hang with Thor.If not then no he cannot
Maybe... but then we could also say Thor can hold his lightning indefinitely. Besides, I'm not sure how long Zod could hold it. Didn't their heat vision seem to be uncomfortable for them?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Maybe... but then we could also say Thor can hold his lightning indefinitely. Besides, I'm not sure how long Zod could hold it. Didn't their heat vision seem to be uncomfortable for them?
He can't hold it indefinitely, he was actually shown to be getting tired in Avengers from using it continuously.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He was exhausted. Where does it say he can hold it "indefinitely" that is a massive limits fallacy..
Looks like you need to rewatch the movie again. He flew down from Stark tower after he got stabbed by Loki. You see him hold his side and miss a step or two.
Nowhere else do you see him exhausted from using lightning.
Also if you read and UNDERSTAND what I said properly, what I meant was that if we assume that Zod can hold his heat vision indefinitely, then we might as well assume that Thor can hold his lightning indefinitely.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He was exhausted. Where does it say he can hold it "indefinitely" that is a massive limits fallacy..
Yeah, Im pretty sure he can't hold it forever in an attack. In AOU, during the Ultron scene, when Thor let up it seemed like it took some energy. But not quite exhausted.
Both the Kryptonians and Thor have used their attacks about roughly the same amount of time. Thor can probably focus it longer with Mjolnir than without. But thats a guess.
And yes, I said "high end Mjolnir strikes". Which so far, in order of destructiveness.
Sokovia, Bifrost, Jotunheim, forest, as aoe and the best I remember for a throw was when he knocked Malekith with reality stone through that solid giant pillar which looks a lot stronger than skyscraper windows..
And I dont think Thor is a city buster and I do think Supes would beat him without Mjolnir but as of right now his damage output and durability is above theirs based off showings. But hell, hes got 3 movies on em.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Yeah, Im pretty sure he can't hold it forever in an attack. In AOU, during the Ultron scene, when Thor let up it seemed like it took some energy. But not quite exhausted.Both the Kryptonians and Thor have used their attacks about roughly the same amount of time. Thor can probably focus it longer with Mjolnir than without. But thats a guess.
And yes, I said "high end Mjolnir strikes". Which so far, in order of destructiveness.
Sokovia, Bifrost, Jotunheim, forest, as aoe and the best I remember for a throw was when he knocked Malekith with reality stone through that solid giant pillar which looks a lot stronger than skyscraper windows..
And I dont think Thor is a city buster and I do think Supes would beat him without Mjolnir but as of right now his damage output and durability is above theirs based off showings. But hell, hes got 3 movies on em.
Agreed, I don't know how he came up with the idea he could use it indefinitely.