Originally posted by riv6672TOAA is a fictional representation of the RW writers. IOW, he is a comic book character. Obviously the most powerful comic book character in Marvel, but a comic book character nonetheless.
I thought God was still God, at both Marvel and DC.
That's why, when TOAA appeared in F4 #511, he explicitly referred to himself as "God":
http://i.imgur.com/2uvu0JY.jpg
That's why Thanos, when he wielded THOTI(TOAA's power), also referred to himself as "God":
http://i.imgur.com/xP6OhNR.png
IOW, the terms "TOAA" and "God" are used synonymously. IOW, they represent the same thing/being. 🙂
Contrary to zop's belief, there is no evidence that "TOAA/God" *only* refers to Marvel's real world staff. Again: TOAA is a fictional representation of the RW writers. IOW, he is a comic book character. Obviously the most powerful comic book character in Marvel, but a comic book character nonetheless.
But anyway, enough derailing this thread with the irrelevant. Owen obviously stomps.
Originally posted by zopzopTOAA > everything on panel in Marvel.
TOAA-God, is an illustrated fictional representation/character of the RW writers/artists, true.
ie. The Marvel omniverse/multiverse whateva and everything in it, and outside it (like the Beyonders)
is nothing but drawings on pieces of paper to this "character" called TOAA-God.
The Infinity being, who was eternal, infinite, with no beginning or natural end, the be all, end all,
is just a silly drawing to this character named TOAA-God.
Sise-Neg-Genesis, per writers' intent was the portrayal of "The" God, ...
just ink on paper that can be crumbled and tossed by TOAA-God.
There's several cats that have been depicted as all-powerful, control over all that is,
yet, they're very existence/relevance is dependent on the pencil of the drawing labeled TOAA-God.
So my point, I agree with G,
TOAA is definitely a character in Marvel that just happens to represent what we established.
But .. because they represent such, imo, they're on another level,
and shouldn't even be categorized with their drawings.
I mean, the God cat in FF#511 is talking about RW subjects like Silver Surfer and Black Panther comics, etc.
That's that absolute 4th wall power in the house
which is distinct from those that adhere and are restricted to the common comic book laws.
Just because Demuirge was initially made from BSE doesn't imply that his or his descendant's source of power is BSE. For example, Surfer source of power is the cosmos. He literally absorbs any ambient energy or solid mass in the universe (both BSE and non BSE). Odin's energy source is clearly non BSE as well.
In other words, a character's makeup doesn't imply their power source.
Surfer could absorb 100% stellar energy. Does that mean he has BSE?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Basically. I call em, TOAA-God.
Imo, there's a "God" tier in Marvel excluding TOAA. TOAA though, is above them all.TOAA-God, is an illustrated fictional representation/character of the RW writers/artists, true.
ie. The Marvel omniverse/multiverse whateva and everything in it, and outside it (like the Beyonders)
is nothing but drawings on pieces of paper to this "character" called TOAA-God.The Infinity being, who was eternal, infinite, with no beginning or natural end, the be all, end all,
is just a silly drawing to this character named TOAA-God.
Sise-Neg-Genesis, per writers' intent was the portrayal of "The" God, ...
just ink on paper that can be crumbled and tossed by TOAA-God.There's several cats that have been depicted as all-powerful, control over all that is,
yet, they're very existence/relevance is dependent on the pencil of the drawing labeled TOAA-God.So my point, I agree with G,
TOAA is definitely a character in Marvel that just happens to represent what we established.
But .. because they represent such, imo, they're on another level,
and shouldn't even be categorized with their drawings.I mean, the God cat in FF#511 is talking about RW subjects like Silver Surfer and Black Panther comics, etc.
That's that absolute 4th wall power in the house
which is distinct from those that adhere and are restricted to the common comic book laws.
So,TOAA>Beyonder?
Originally posted by Mr MasterI agree, but this would mean that a higher dimensional being shares the same relationship. For example, mxy (a 5th dimensional being) is analogous to TOAA since the D.C. Universe is just a piece of paper to him.
Basically. I call em, TOAA-God.
Imo, there's a "God" tier in Marvel excluding TOAA. TOAA though, is above them all.TOAA-God, is an illustrated fictional representation/character of the RW writers/artists, true.
ie. The Marvel omniverse/multiverse whateva and everything in it, and outside it (like the Beyonders)
is nothing but drawings on pieces of paper to this "character" called TOAA-God.The Infinity being, who was eternal, infinite, with no beginning or natural end, the be all, end all,
is just a silly drawing to this character named TOAA-God.
Sise-Neg-Genesis, per writers' intent was the portrayal of "The" God, ...
just ink on paper that can be crumbled and tossed by TOAA-God.There's several cats that have been depicted as all-powerful, control over all that is,
yet, they're very existence/relevance is dependent on the pencil of the drawing labeled TOAA-God.So my point, I agree with G,
TOAA is definitely a character in Marvel that just happens to represent what we established.
But .. because they represent such, imo, they're on another level,
and shouldn't even be categorized with their drawings.I mean, the God cat in FF#511 is talking about RW subjects like Silver Surfer and Black Panther comics, etc.
That's that absolute 4th wall power in the house
which is distinct from those that adhere and are restricted to the common comic book laws.
