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Started by Tzeentch2 pages

Why do sci-fi/fantasy authors still draw 2d maps for space when space is 3-dimensional?

In space, you can easily have neighboring systems that are "right next to each other" on the x-axis, which are still millions of light-years away on the Y.

Originally posted by ares834
So another fail by Bioware.

Edit: Or I guess in this case it might be the atlas.

It's basically like that in game too, however there are obviously much more statr systems in between shown.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Why do sci-fi/fantasy authors still draw 2d maps for space when space is 3-dimensional?

In space, you can easily have neighboring systems that are "right next to each other" on the x-axis, which are still millions of light-years away on the Y.


To be honest, I never understood this either.

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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except Revan and Malak are confirmed to have returned from the Unknown Regions, so...I mean you do know the Unknown Regions includes parts of the Outer Rim? Just like Wild Space?

What regions are unknown *do* change after all.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Why do sci-fi/fantasy authors still draw 2d maps for space when space is 3-dimensional?

In space, you can easily have neighboring systems that are "right next to each other" on the x-axis, which are still millions of light-years away on the Y.

Drawing 3-d is hard 🙂

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except Revan and Malak are confirmed to have returned from the Unknown Regions

Uh, that's because after going to Kaas they went to Rakata Prime which is indeed in the Unknown Regions.

With the Star Forge as their starting ground they returned from the Unknown Regions, correct. 👆

Except the Republic doesn't know about the Star Forge and the loading screen appears before they know about it as well. The Unknown Regions are any and all space not charted by the Republic, or the Empire in the time of TOR. It's not exactly a specific place on the map.

Originally posted by Q99
What regions are unknown *do* change after all.

Indeed.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except the Republic doesn't know about the Star Forge and the loading screen appears before they know about it as well. The Unknown Regions are any and all space not charted by the Republic, or the Empire in the time of TOR. It's not exactly a specific place on the map..

I'm not really seeing your point at all in relevance to the thread's topic.

Korriban and other Sith worlds are charted by the Republic.

That's how Droma Jr. and his waifu did the Great Hunt.

Because knowing a few star systems doesn't mean you have the entire region charted? Ilum is also charted. Must not be in the Unknown Regions then.

Fair enough.

You're completely and utterly missing the point of the thread though.

Vitiate's Empire was clearly expanding, conquering other worlds, etc. etc.

The writing that his Empire never crossed with any planets of Revan's Empire is terrible.

Especially considering planets like Malachor should be known to Vitiate as well.

And, like I already said, the fact that Vitiate's empire is literally contained within Revan's is stupid.

How is it bad writing? Point is, the Unknown Regions are uncharted and dangerous. These Empires are constantly at war with the Republic. One of them is indirectly being influenced by Vitiate. Why would he let them find his Empire? Why would he try to expand into Revan's Empire? Similarly, why would the Sith expand very far outside of these regions early on when there is the Stygian Caldera to deal with, which is made pretty clear on the atlas? It may seem kind of nonsensical to have it there, but it'd be a lot more nonsensical to have it anywhere else.

I'm in shock that you are trying to justify this, LMFAO.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Fair enough.

You're completely and utterly missing the point of the thread though.

Vitiate's Empire was clearly expanding, conquering other worlds, etc. etc.

The writing that his Empire never crossed with any planets of Revan's Empire is terrible.

Especially considering planets like Malachor should be known to Vitiate as well.

And, like I already said, the fact that Vitiate's empire is literally contained within Revan's is stupid.

Pretty sure that 1. they deliberately avoided confrontations with the wider galaxy, which they were well aware of 2. most of their Empire was situated in the Unknown Regions, not Sith Space.

That said? You seem to be completely ignoring the fact that Revan found Vitiate's Sith Empire after the Mandalorian Wars and was well aware of its existence when constructing his own...

The entire point was that Vitiate was hiding from the Republic. Why invade worlds like Korriban and Malachor that are known to the Republic, and that are most likely under sureveilance to quell any possible Dark Side revolutions?

This thread went downhill with stupidity depressing quickly.

RIP.

Ant be mad that most people disagree with him. 😬

By the looks of the thread some people also agree.

And this was a thread more for the laughs than some deep discussion.

Nevertheless, I always think you have peaked off in your retardation and you never fail to prove me wrong by falling further into the abyss.

I won't lie, it has been pretty funny. 👆

I laughed. I cried. I cried some more.

10/10 - IGN

To be fair, I thought the novel said something about nobody knowing the routes to Dromund Kaas. As for Malachor and Nathema, I find it interesting that two devastated worlds are so close to each other.