Hercules, Gilgamesh and Odinson vs. Kurse

Started by zopzop4 pages

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Herc, Gil, and Odinson are Gnats to Galactus. They are not gnats to a Kurse.

But they are. Gnats only pester and can't do any damage. Herc/Gil/Thor (ignoring Jarn for now) can't do ANY damage to Kurse (since a buffed out THor with Mjolnir couldn't even hurt him). Hence they are gnats.

Originally posted by zopzop
But they are. Gnats only pester and can't do any damage. Herc/Gil/Thor (ignoring Jarn for now) can't do ANY damage to Kurse (since a buffed out THor with Mjolnir couldn't even hurt him). Hence they are gnats.

Gnats do not stalemate you in a test of strength for a prolonged period of time.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Gnats do not stalemate you in a test of strength for a prolonged period of time.

When did he do this?

Belt of Strength Thor got his sh|t pushed in by Kurse. And every other time they fought, Kurse humiliated Thor.

The guy that was punching holes in Celestial armor couldn't even dent Kurse. Let's not go full retard here.

Originally posted by zopzop
Cutting the Destroyer armor is nice and all, but it took the total combined power of Mjolnir AND Stormbreaker channeled through Energizer, AFTER Kurse had been exposed to iron, to merely KO him.

Good luck with that Team.

The combined might of Mjolnir and Stormbreaker wouldn't do jack shit to the Destroyer. Yet they KOed Kurse.

Also Thor was holding his own against Kurse with Mjolnir. Mjolnir was shown affecting him. Just couldn't ko him.

Lastly, cutting ability has nothing to do with energy projection or blunt force trauma. Destroyer is more durable than Kurse in every way.

Lol at being 4x weaker means you are a gnat.
A child can hurt an adult, just Can't ko them.

Originally posted by zopzop
When did he do this?

Belt of Strength Thor got his sh|t pushed in by Kurse. And every other time they fought, Kurse humiliated Thor.

The guy that was punching holes in Celestial armor couldn't even dent Kurse. Let's not go full retard here.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Isn't that 'dead'/'shade' Kurse?

Even there Kurse was more than twice as strong as Thor.

Getting someone in a strength lock for a panel doesn't means you're stalemating them in strength.

Thor knew he had no chance of winning there.

Originally posted by zopzop
Isn't that 'dead'/'shade' Kurse?

Dead, shade, shadow, undead, half dead it doesn't matter when it says right there on panel the type of strength he wielded.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even there Kurse was more than twice as strong as Thor.

Getting someone in a strength lock for a panel doesn't means you're stalemating them in strength.

Thor knew he had no chance of winning there.


Sure it does. And no it wasn't one panel. No one ever said he stalemated Kurse the whole way through.

You'd think it can't get any clearer when narration described it as unstoppable force against an immovable object.
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Dead, shade, shadow, undead, half dead it doesn't matter when it says right there on panel the type of strength he wielded.

Apparently it does matter. Or you mean to tell me unbuffed Thor doing better than buffed Thor vs Kurse isn't writer idiocy?

Recap :
Thor/Buffed Thor vs Kurse - Thor gets his sh|t pushed in
Thor vs Dead Kurse - Thor holds his own

If I'm not mistaken, there were other inconsistencies in that story arc regarding other shade characters vs their living selves. For example, the Midgard Serpent shade was MUCH smaller compared to his living self and was missing powers (time stop).

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Dead, shade, shadow, undead, half dead it doesn't matter when it says right there on panel the type of strength he wielded.

Sure it does. And no it wasn't one panel. No one ever said he stalemated Kurse the whole way through.

You'd think it can't get any clearer when narration described it as unstoppable force against an immovable object.
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It's not the same in any way.

Unless you are thinking Thor was more than twice as strong as himself to stalemate in a strength contest.

Even for you, that's lulzworthy.

Originally posted by zopzop
Apparently it does matter. Or you mean to tell me unbuffed Thor doing better than buffed Thor vs Kurse isn't writer idiocy?

Recap :
Thor/Buffed Thor vs Kurse - Thor gets his sh|t pushed in
Thor vs Dead Kurse - Thor holds his own

If I'm not mistaken, there were other inconsistencies in that story arc regarding other shade characters vs their living selves. For example, the Midgard Serpent shade was MUCH smaller compared to his living self and was missing powers (time stop).


Your mistaken.

Kurse was never dead there.

I'm not even going into this other thing about Midgard Serpent size, missing powers, etc.. That's some funky logic there.

*cringe*

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's not the same in any way.

Unless you are thinking Thor was more than twice as strong as himself to stalemate in a strength contest.

Even for you, that's lulzworthy.


Dynamic strength brah. He just happened to match him at that point in time. Not really hard to comprehend.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Dynamic strength brah. He just happened to match him at that point in time. Not really hard to comprehend.

Haha, yeah right.

Stan Lee firmly established Thor can't increase his strength.

It's nothing like a stalemate in strength. Thor was in no way ever going to win.

It's more of a low showing from Kurse than anything else.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, yeah right.

Stan Lee firmly established Thor can't increase his strength.

It's nothing like a stalemate in strength. Thor was in no way ever going to win.

It's more of a low showing from Kurse than anything else.


Except throughout his history he can and he has. Sorry bro.

Sure it is. No one is saying he was going to sustain it the whole way through. Not sure what is not computing here for you. Doesn't really matter since it's right there in panel. At this point you're just ignoring actual evidence.

I guess Clark beiefly holding back Seid is not a feat for him and a low showing for DS.

The hypocrisy here is so thick you can cut with a knife.

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Your mistaken.

Kurse was never dead there.


That makes that showing even more idiotic.

Kurse still stomps.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Except throughout his history he can and he has. Sorry bro.

Sure it is. No one is saying he was going to sustain it the whole way through. Not sure what is not computing here for you. Doesn't really matter since it's right there in panel. At this point you're just ignoring actual evidence.

I guess Clark beiefly holding back Seid is not a feat for him and a low showing for DS.

The hypocrisy here is so thick you can cut with a knife.

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Nope, never has. The best he has done is on adrenaline boost.

Superman has dynamic strength ingrained in his character since pre crisis days. Thor's own creator flat out cleared that Thor doesn't.

Thor isn't Superman. Never was and never will be.

Originally posted by zopzop

That makes that showing even more idiotic.

Kurse still stomps.

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Great comeback.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, never has. The best he has done is on adrenaline boost.

Superman has dynamic strength ingrained in his character since pre crisis days. Thor's own creator flat out cleared that Thor doesn't.

Thor isn't Superman. Never was and never will be.


Except he has.
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Numerous references of a guy that can get stronger when he moves toward berserker mode. Has a history of holding back. Has history of holding back even when not aware. For some reason there is now way he can have dynamic strength.

According to your logic....

Superman can't create a solar flare.

Sunfire is not empowered by celestial energy.

Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are still mutants and not mutates.

Oh and great retort by the way with your last statement. I see you and Zop must have read the same book on "great comebacks".

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Except he has.
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Numerous references of a guy that can get stronger when he moves toward berserker mode. Has a history of holding back. Has history of holding back even when not aware. For some reason there is now way he can have dynamic strength.

According to your logic....

Superman can't create a solar flare.

Sunfire is not empowered by celestial energy.

Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are still mutants and not mutates.

Oh and great retort by the way with your last statement. I see you and Zop must have read the same book on "great comebacks".


Post one scan where he is said to be getting stronger. It's adrenaline boost. Even blood and Thunder Thor was Thor on adrenaline boost.

Holding back and dynamic strength are two different things. The scenes like this where Superman's powers are "surging" do not appear for Thor.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supesmongultraining5.jpg

Or Darkseid confirming he is stronger than ever.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supesdsapoknow4.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supesdsapoknow5.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supesdsapoknow9.jpg

Lex has flat out stated that Superman absorbs solar energy more rapidly when angered.

Thor doesn't gets stronger. He never has.