DE Luke Skywalker vs. Count Dooku (Lightsabers only)

Duel takes place aboard the Valor

You mean no force augmentation either?

There is force oggmentation

I'll go with DE Luke.

It depends on what the gap between Dooku and Sidious is, what the gap between RotS and DE Sidious is, and how much Luke was being amped by Leia.

Oh, didn't Palpatine remark that beginning-of-DE Luke could give him a reasonable challenge? Yeah, Luke stomps.

Luke was utterly trounced by Sidious before he received help from Leia IIRC. So with that I'm not sure cause Luke movies pretty fast in the series, while Dooku isn't close to that level, so I'm going Luke at this point.

Dooku is more technically skilled imo and if their augmentation was on par he'd take it in an amazing fight even taking Luke's form advantage and physical strength into account but the fact is he was matching Vader's cybernetics and augmentation by RotJ so he's logically on a superior level to Dooku in regards to physicals including speed by DE.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Luke was utterly trounced by Sidious before he received help from Leia IIRC.

True, but Luke was only trounced because when he fought Palpatine the first time his mind and heart were clouded by the dark side. He wasn't balanced, he wasn't focused, he wasn't in a good place metaphysically. Put simply Luke was WAY off his game.

In Round 2 yes he had Leia's aid but all she did was use Force Harmony to help him stay in the light. This kept him from being affected by dark side influences so he could stay focused but that was all. It didn't "amp" him in any way.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
True, but Luke was only trounced because when he fought Palpatine the first time his mind and heart were clouded by the dark side. He wasn't balanced, he wasn't focused, he wasn't in a good place metaphysically. Put simply Luke was WAY off his game.

In Round 2 yes he had Leia's aid but all she did was use Force Harmony to help him stay in the light. This kept him from being affected by dark side influences so he could stay focused but that was all. It didn't "amp" him in any way.

Are you sure about that? Didn't one source describe Leia unlocking "hidden reserves" in Luke or something of the sort?

It's possible that her aid was mostly psychological, but that still means Luke was fighting beyond his baseline performance.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
True, but Luke was only trounced because when he fought Palpatine the first time his mind and heart were clouded by the dark side. He wasn't balanced, he wasn't focused, he wasn't in a good place metaphysically. Put simply Luke was WAY off his game.

In Round 2 yes he had Leia's aid but all she did was use Force Harmony to help him stay in the light. This kept him from being affected by dark side influences so he could stay focused but that was all. It didn't "amp" him in any way.

Force harmony severed his connection to the dark side which is putting him at a severe disadvantage.