Classic Kingpin Vs Sabretooth

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carver9 Senior Member

Then we have the Wendigo showing.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Sinister's "Supermen"...

Omega Red...

Polaris...

The list is long.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Spider-Man already fought Creed and couldn't do shit to him... that's when Creed was actually written with his powers as we know him today.

Creed is too strong, too durable, heals in moments and his claws can penetrate through Fisk's skull with ease.

Sabretooth from his first appearances, back when he wasn't even a mutant, is the only version that can lose here.

😂

Yeah, right. But he can tank Parker's best kick just fine 👆

scans of the Spider-Man Creed fight

h1a8 Senior Member

Spider-Man has taken blows FAR outside Creeds strength level and yet KP has hurt him. So the faulty logic goes both ways. But as Saint pointed out is Creed wins due to cutting ability. If this was more a h2h fight without claws then it would be more even.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by h1a8
scans of the Spider-Man Creed fight

You've been a member for years, you should know where to look.

Originally posted by h1a8
Spider-Man has taken blows FAR outside Creeds strength level and yet KP has hurt him. So the faulty logic goes both ways. But as Saint pointed out is Creed wins due to cutting ability. If this was more a h2h fight without claws then it would be more even.

No, you just don't read comics.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Creed fights guys out of Kingpins strength class. Creed took a barrage of punches from Sasquatch like a champ. He even managed to drop Walter with a shovel iirc.

Though some people said that was adamantium Creed. Not sure on that one though.

It was Weapon X Creed, he got the upgrade in 2002 and Sabretooth Open Season was in 2004

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

Originally posted by -K-M-
It was Weapon X Creed, he got the upgrade in 2002 and Sabretooth Open Season was in 2004
When did he loose the adamantium?

-K-M- ...........
Originally posted by juggernaut74
When did he loose the adamantium?

Technically Weapon X was his second stint with adamantium. Apocalypse gave it him originally, then took it away and gave it to Wolverine. Then Weapon X gave it to him and he still is supposed to have it.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Key word: supposed.

He lost it after M-Day, apparently. I have no idea what Marvel editors are getting paid for.

-K-M- ...........

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Key word: supposed.

He lost it after M-Day, apparently. I have no idea what Marvel editors are getting paid for.

Officially I don't think they did take it away, but from recent showings it certainly seems like it. As you said after M-Day he lost a lot of luster.

StiltmanFTW CBvF
Originally posted by -K-M-
Officially I don't think they did take it away, but from recent showings it certainly seems like it. As you said after M-Day he lost a lot of luster.

They never stated it, true.

Wolverine wasn't surprised one bit when he inspected the corpse of Creed's clone (he thought it was the original Tooth); it had no adamantium.

Anyway, he obviously doesn't need adamantium for Kingpin.

Surtur Restricted
Originally posted by h1a8
If this was more a h2h fight without claws then it would be more even.

It wouldn't be more even because one outclasses the other in every way that matters.

AlmightyKfish This Is No Longer A City.

Also let's be honest, Spider-man holds back a great deal when fighting 'normal' humans like Fisk, and when he took the kid gloves off in Back In Black it was a non fight. He absolutely embarrassed Fisk while pointing out his lack of actual power.

Creed would not be holding back and something similar would happen.

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Also let's be honest, Spider-man holds back a great deal when fighting 'normal' humans

While this is true
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
and when he took the kid gloves off in Back In Black it was a non fight.

Spiderman actually never overpowered Fisk there, he overwhelmed him with speed. And since even classic Spiderman has done that, makes you wonder he he didn't use it more often on his enemies. Also, Spider man using his speed has taken out guys even stronger than him - though I AM NOT insinuating Kingpin is stronger . And its worth mentioning that Spiderman was supposed to be twice his normal level during the time of Back- In Black due to the Queen and Other mutations. In fact, after the Other mutation, while he got stomped on by Lizard normally, with the Other power he easily beat Connors. So that is not a good exaple
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
He absolutely embarrassed Fisk while pointing out his lack of actual power.

JMS actually did a big disservice to Kingpin in that story, though it was Bendis who started it and Brubaker who continued it. Classic Kingpin practically no-selled blows from low-level superhumans. Saying he has no power is total bullshit.