ISIS Targeting American Freedoms

Started by Time-Immemorial2 pages

ISIS Targeting American Freedoms

What is the likelihood of Isis to be targeting America and our freedoms now with the latest shooting and in the future by targeting our freedoms way of life, and liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Could they be taking advantage of sympathetic views in America to further their agenda. And if so, how can this be stopped?

Isn't that what they've been trying to do?

How has Islamic State co-opted the term ISIS? It should just be IS.

We can't back down to this. Isis was an Egyptian goddess (who once had a live action Saturday morning TV show!) and the name of the organization in Archer. We can't stop using the term because of these apocalypse fanatics.

Our... freedoms?

They don't care *jack squat* about our freedom. Now, they do want us dead, but that's a different thing, they don't care how much liberty we have when they're targeting us. We're not even high up on their list- 'Apostate' Muslims who fight against them are.

Also they have a belief that the US will invade their area and then God will come down and smite us. So, that is their goal in respect to us. They want to kill some of us in order to get us to come over and be a sign that God's gonna lay the smack down because they're an apocalyptic death cult.

Originally posted by roughrider
How has Islamic State co-opted the term ISIS? It should just be IS.

We can't back down to this. Isis was an Egyptian goddess (who once had a live action Saturday morning TV show!) and the name of the organization in Archer. We can't stop using the term because of these apocalypse fanatics.

There's also ISIL or Daesh to use.

ISIS is a good reason to reopen Guantanamo.

Originally posted by Q99
Our... freedoms?

They don't care *jack squat* about our freedom. Now, they do want us dead, but that's a different thing, they don't care how much liberty we have when they're targeting us. We're not even high up on their list- 'Apostate' Muslims who fight against them are.

Also they have a belief that the US will invade their area and then God will come down and smite us. So, that is their goal in respect to us. They want to kill some of us in order to get us to come over and be a sign that God's gonna lay the smack down because they're an apocalyptic death cult.

But surely if we were that bad God would of smote up already. Maybe God's power doesn't extend to across the ocean? They must need to bring us to his place of power.

I'm also thinking in between beheadings these guys play a lot of D&D.

The more they target us with he use of guns, the more freedoms law abiding citizens lose. The more they target us in public places the more security we have to have, which ultimately means less freedom.

It will get to point we have to protect ourselves. The gov't will not do it for us.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
It will get to point we have to protect ourselves. The gov't will not do it for us.

👆

Also, 😂 @ Q99's "we aren't even high up on their list". Sorry, but that's total BS. Everyone knows we are the ultimate trophy for Islamic terrorists. That's undeniable. I'm sure Q also thinks global warming BS is the greatest threat to mankind. 😂

Originally posted by Star428
👆

Also, 😂 @ Q99's "we aren't even high up on their list". Sorry, but that's total BS. Everyone knows we are the ultimate trophy for Islamic terrorists. That's undeniable. I'm sure Q also thinks global warming BS is the greatest threat to mankind. 😂

Not according to Their own magazine among their own people. It's not like they keep it a secret. They even are pro- the west bombing of groups like Al Qaeda, who is fighting them (and who, btw, *also* cared jack squat about our freedoms, just our lives).

Think about it- who do you hate more, some enemy on the other side of the planet who isn't even sending troops and does fight some of their enemies too, or a 'traitor to the cause' who's fighting you and pushing a 'corruption' of your own beliefs? They are, in their view, fighting with their 'real' opponents, Muslims who 'reject the proper interpretation of scipture' (i.e. aren't as batshit death hungry as them).

You're thinking we're the top target because you're thinking of what's worse for you, you're not thinking from their point of view. What do they gain from us losing 'freedoms'? Jack squat! They don't even get to claim kills of enemies if we lose 'freedoms'. Beating other Muslims in the area, on the flip side, gets them territory, people under their control, money, that sort of thing. Concrete things.

Well, that and they think us showing up will evoke a magic 'I win' button in their favor. They are absolutely over the edge after all, but that's what they profess to believe. Any attacks they launch will be with that in mind- focused on lives, not freedoms, for the purpose of goading us into attack.

I don't quit get the point of trying to project beliefs onto enemies other than their beliefs- especially when their actual beliefs aren't any nicer and still paint them as people who need to be stopped, but it's silly to just paint whatever you want onto anyone you don't like, it leaves you misinformed as to what they actually are trying for.

Statistically, the Average American should be more afraid of a gun owner than ISIS if you wanted to fear monger. 12k deaths this year alone from Gun related deaths compared to 140 or so from the Paris attacks, your average guy with a gun or a conniving mass shooter on average kills more than the Islamist.

We don't mind killing each other but we don't want any stinking terrorists from over there doing it. Murica.

Ironically this is exactly how Radical Islam thinks..

I'mErica

ISIS doesn't care about America.

Nobody does actually 😉

I thought that was the big discussion with the "patriot" act after 9/11.

Originally posted by Bentley
ISIS doesn't care about America.

Nobody does actually 😉

Riiiight. 🙄

Looks like you have the U.S. confused with France. 👆

He was joking, lets not talk bad about France..

Given the way the people of France reacted to the Paris attacks I honestly don't think they'd care if anyone says anything bad about them. They'd print out the bad stuff said about them, put it on a t-shirt, and sell it on street corners.

😂

Originally posted by Star428
Riiiight. 🙄

Looks like you have the U.S. confused with France. 👆

France is taking in a lot more refugees, which is costing them money and potential recruits.

Also, at the moment, France has a lot more reason to care about them, while the US is effectively just there out of support of France (other reasons too, but that's one of the reasons we most care about at this point).

They do, actually, have more reason to care about France than the US.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
We don't mind killing each other but we don't want any stinking terrorists from over there doing it. Murica.

Ironically this is exactly how Radical Islam thinks..

Ironically, that's not how ISIL thinks, they care *far more* about the people next to them and trying to kill them, while meanwhile they know that among the West's targets are people they view to be enemies too (like Al Qaeda).

Which goes into how silly it is to dump 'em in to one group blindly, different groups have very different motives and assuming they all think the same just means being wrong about how they're likely to act.