Depowered Superman runs the gauntlet

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Originally posted by deathslash
Pretty sure that vandal savage and a couple of his men straight up owned him.
And?

1). We don't know how powerfull current Vandal Savage is
2). Superman was already half dead by the time he confronted him

Cap could beat him simply because he's Cap.

Taking Cap's "aura" out of the equation, though, he stops around Cage/Spider-Man and NO WAY does he beat Namor.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
NO WAY does he beat Namor.
He's already beaten Black Manta, who has given Aquaman fits. He's also grappled with Arthur and shrugged off his hits [though he did admit AQ was stronger]. Why do you act like Namor stomps him?

The fact that he was almost killed by armor-piercing bullets.

His highs might put him at Namor's average showings but Namor still has higher feats over all so I give him the definite nod.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
The fact that he was almost killed by armor-piercing bullets.
The bullets were tailor-made for him of an whole new caliber. Don't read just the scans you see on the forum.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
His highs might put him at Namor's average showings but Namor still has higher feats over all so I give him the definite nod.
I also gave Namor the nod, but you act like it's a stomp.

There's no such thing as "highs" when the dude's been appearing only for 6 months.
In this meantime, he's beaten Black Manta, done well against Aquaman, tanked attacks from a clone having 80% of his full power and then numbed him, beaten Killer Croc, beaten Livewire and tanked her attacks, beaten Atomic Skull and beaten Parasite.

That's a rather good average.

I read the actual comic but thanks for the condescension.

And, as I recall, they weren't created with any type of weakness exploitation. They were described as high, velocity armor-piercing rounds. I don't recall them as being "Superman specific" or anything. I'm not at home but if you have the scans to show otherwise, that'd be appreciated.

And yes, there are "highs" as well as "lows" considering the number of appearances he's had in those 6 months. I don't consider either Atomic Skull nor Parasite to be on Namor's level. And, I didn't say his average was "low" but it's lower than Namor's. I'd place him a little below Thing-level.

@ Phil.

I can't respond to your PM due to the wacky character in your username, but yes, that definitely puts Darkseid's power into perspective... Especially given that the CB was stated to possess infinite power on the very same page:
http://i.imgur.com/0YqVKuJ.jpg
ie. Darkseid's power~CB=infinite.

Heck, Darkseid's power could very well have been greater than the CB's... It was just the closest match in the universe that Mother Box could find.

It's also worth noting that the Omega power Lex inherited from Darkseid was stated to be infinite as well:
http://i.imgur.com/GOv80N5.jpg

Originally posted by deathslash
when he's fully powered? Sure, the guy does it all the time. When he's in his current depowered form? Pretty sure that vandal savage and a couple of his men straight up owned him.

It's still the same thing actually.

True, new 52 haven't struggle as much, but even when fully powered he still fought far beyond his power set.

Morrison's ending on Action Comics. Kal was fighting while he was weakened with Kryptonite being the best ex.

Originally posted by deathslash
when he's fully powered? Sure, the guy does it all the time. When he's in his current depowered form? Pretty sure that vandal savage and a couple of his men straight up owned him.

Vandal would destroy Cap. He was fighting Pandora (who has hundreds of years experience in combat/Martial Arts) and was getting pierced by swords and whatnot. His healing is more impressive and he's immortal.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
And yes, there are "highs" as well as "lows" considering the number of appearances he's had in those 6 months. I don't consider either Atomic Skull nor Parasite to be on Namor's level. And, I didn't say his average was "low" but it's lower than Namor's. I'd place him a little below Thing-level.

I'm at work also, but it says that's they're specially made, of a strange caliber. It's on the page where Wonder Woman is treating him, after the fight.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
And yes, there are "highs" as well as "lows" considering the number of appearances he's had in those 6 months. I don't consider either Atomic Skull nor Parasite to be on Namor's level. And, I didn't say his average was "low" but it's lower than Namor's. I'd place him a little below Thing-level.
I'd also put him at Thing level and say he stops at Namor, so we're not on different pages, there. I don't think Namor is that far off either Thing or him, though, which is where we differ.

Originally posted by Galan007
@ Phil.

I can't respond to your PM due to the wacky character in your username, but yes, that definitely puts Darkseid's power into perspective... Especially given that the CB was stated to possess infinite power on the very same page:
http://i.imgur.com/0YqVKuJ.jpg
ie. Darkseid's power~CB=infinite.

Heck, Darkseid's power could very well have been greater than the CB's... It was just the closest match in the universe that Mother Box could find.

It's also worth noting that the Omega power Lex inherited from Darkseid was stated to be infinite as well:
http://i.imgur.com/GOv80N5.jpg

Forum is starting to break down. I also have problems quoting some people.

As for the rest, 👆.

That just solidified Darkseid's power as being ridiculous in the New52 incarnation for me.

Glad to see the New Gods getting respect.

Originally posted by Phil
I'm at work also, but it says that's they're specially made, of a strange caliber. It's on the page where Wonder Woman is treating him, after the fight.

http://i.imgur.com/vA5RPAg.jpg

Originally posted by Phil
Forum is starting to break down. I also have problems quoting some people.

As for the rest, 👆.

That just solidified Darkseid's power as being ridiculous in the New52 incarnation for me.

Glad to see the New Gods getting respect.

Definitely. 👆

Not sure how he does against rest, but if he gets past Herc, he loses hard at BRB.

Stops at 1.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Stops at 1.
this kid knows how it is.

Originally posted by deathslash
this kid knows how it is.

No he doesn't.

Saying a Superman while depowered took on Parasite stops only aa cap is ludicrous.

Originally posted by SquallX
No he doesn't.

Saying a Superman while depowered took on Parasite stops only aa cap is ludicrous.

you're right. He stops way before cap. He probably trips on a rock and dies from the pain because he's never experienced anything as painful as scraping his knee.

How is he beating Spiderman?

Originally posted by carver9
How is he beating Spiderman?
spider-man? The real question here is how he beats Luke cage. The guy has feats like fighting namor underwater, knocking out the thing, briefly stalemating wonderman, putting the hulk on his ass, tanking attacks from heroim, stalemating proxima, beating on iron man, etc.

The bullshit and stupidity is high in this thread.