Originally posted by juggerman
Nomak wrecks
The unblooded and youngblood. Healing factor or no, Womak can be decapitated and cut straight in half. Vampires and Nomaks kinds durability is suspect. Just high damage soak and regen. Anyway, Nomak beats this particular yautja.
I wish the yautja were closer to their comicverse counterparts.
No film Pred is touching Nomak in h2h or with blades.
Now if the Pred could use plasma casters and lasers he would easily merk Nomak. But the one of the biggest and strongest Preds on film was stalemated by a small Asian man in a blade fight. There wasn't anything really special about this guy either.
The thing I don't like about the Predator films is that before we see them fully, they are seemingly ninja quick and stealthy as all hell, but once they are uncloaked they are these slow lumbering bastards that only rely on their brutish strength
Originally posted by juggerman
But the one of the biggest and strongest Preds on film was stalemated by a small Asian man in a blade fight. There wasn't anything really special about this guy either.
We don't know really know this based on feats.
"Biggest" can be confirmed by on-screen appearance.
Strength is another matter. The "normal" Predator was most likely malnourished, tortured and in a weakened state.
And Wolf from AVPR has plenty of strength feats, even then its hard to conclude who is stronger.
The other point is skill, IMO Wolf or even any of the padawan Predators from the first AVP would have made short work of the Yakuza dude.
I agree about them sometimes being uncharacteristically slow, but there are exceptions. Also, sometimes its not just about winning, but dominating the opponent in a slug fest.
Originally posted by Placidity
We don't know really know this based on feats."Biggest" can be confirmed by on-screen appearance.
Strength is another matter. The "normal" Predator was most likely malnourished, tortured and in a weakened state.
And Wolf from AVPR has plenty of strength feats, even then its hard to conclude who is stronger.
The other point is skill, IMO Wolf or even any of the padawan Predators from the first AVP would have made short work of the Yakuza dude.
I agree about them sometimes being uncharacteristically slow, but there are exceptions. Also, sometimes its not just about winning, but dominating the opponent in a slug fest.
It was confirmed the "Super" Predators were bigger and stronger in the film and in the tie in comic. That was the entire point of them. Predators even more "Predatory". That Normal Pred was likely weak and such but only because it and it's team lost.
Skill is another matter I agree but barring Wolf, no Predator showed any real skill especially while uncloaked in film.
Originally posted by juggerman
No film Pred is touching Nomak in h2h or with blades.Now if the Pred could use plasma casters and lasers he would easily merk Nomak. But the one of the biggest and strongest Preds on film was stalemated by a small Asian man in a blade fight. There wasn't anything really special about this guy either.
The thing I don't like about the Predator films is that before we see them fully, they are seemingly ninja quick and stealthy as all hell, but once they are uncloaked they are these slow lumbering bastards that only rely on their brutish strength
Watch the fight again if he was serious he could have killed him in the first minute.
That's the problem with them that most of the times they are portrayed as arogant creatures.
Both Anytime and City Hunter lost because they were just toying around.
As for the fight Nomak wins with a sword.
Without it im sure Wolf and maybe Celtic could put up a good.fight.
Originally posted by Estacado
Nah the Pred was playing around.with the yakuza dude at first.Watch the fight again if he was serious he could have killed him in the first minute.
That's the problem with them that most of the times they are portrayed as arogant creatures.
Both Anytime and City Hunter lost because they were just toying around.
As for the fight Nomak wins with a sword.
Without it im sure Wolf and maybe Celtic could put up a good.fight.
Yes they do toy around but still.
Ozymandias was toying with Rorschach and Nite Owl II yet the still couldn't come close to him. The point is while the Predators are physically superior to humans, the gap is not so wide that humans can't win. Skill included
I can't see any Predator fighting Nomak h2h and doing ok. His and Blade's fight was well above Predator level. Film at least. In comics Preds are much better
Originally posted by Estacado
Celtic throwing around the xeno and smashing through those pillars is more impressive then anything Blade has done strength wise imo.Off course he is more skilled though that will eventually get.him the win.
Idk. Breaking the floor pretty casually and lifting that reinforced metal blast door was damn uber for Nomak.
Not just skill. Speed and agility are well in Nomak's favor
Nomak would destroy any Pred in h2h
Originally posted by golem370
The Predators were shown ripping spinal cords out of peoples back pretty impressive the first predator back handed a 220 pound man 10 to 15 feet and also held him off the ground for a few seconds. He was imo in the Captain America level strength category some where between 800-2000 pounds.
Still nothing on Noam who was ripping open reinforced blast doors and breaking the ground with his knee