Originally posted by NewGuy01
Beefcake should have been Dragon, though. His power certainly threatened to obliterate multiple cities.
I guess he was at the upper boundaries.
What he was destroying was just small towns, though, so maybe they *didn't* consider him a threat to multiple major cities, not with the level of hero guarding those have.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Also, can Garou really be called a hero?
Certainly not 🙂
He's a villain through and though.
Btw, something to note- there are human villains given classes. In the first Blizzard Group bonus chapter, they took down a 'C-class villain,' Banero, and Hammerhead is called a B-class. Garou seems to be the only one ever referred to by threat level.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Also, can Garou really be called a hero?
He may not actually have been a God-level threat, though.
Spoiler:In reality, he's around Dragon+, like Lord Boros.
He did acknowledge that Tatsumaki would've beaten him in his Monster form if she wasn't weakened by Black Sperm.
We haven't seen a REAL God-level threat yet.
Spoiler:
It is rumored that the "God" that gave Homeless Emperor his powers and killed him is a God-level Mysterious Being. http://i.imgur.com/6At6lN7.jpg
Correction:
Spoiler:
Monster Garou was definitely a God-level threat. His human form was Demon-level. http://mangafox.me/manga/onepunch_man_one/c083/7.html
I was talking about this guy:
The "God" who gave Homeless Emperor his Dragon-level powers.
Note on Garou:
Spoiler:
He broke his limiters during his fight with Saitama, but Saitama still won for some reason. It seems Saitama's strength has no limits. What ONE said about him having infinite strength is probably true.I have no doubt in my mind Saitama will defeat this "God."
He may not actually have been a God-level threat, though. In reality, he's around Dragon+, like Lord Boros.We haven't seen a REAL God-level threat yet.
God-level is any threat with the capacity to wipe out the entire human race; Boros qualifies, and since Garou is stronger than him, he probably should too.
Originally posted by Q99
Though even Seaking and Beefcake are 'just' Demon level.Dragons are pretty rare. Outside of the aliens and the meteor (which is just a rock), it's Vaccine Man, Carnage Kabuto, and Elder Centipede until the Monster Association arc.
And I will note that while A-classes are less-than-demon, teaming up the best of them can beat some lesser demon class foes.
Oooh, and I just realized I made a mistake and skipped a category- I had the A-classes as 'wolf' when really they should be 'tiger.'
Wolf is, like, 'most of the Blizzard group,' 'Tank Top Tiger / Tank Top Black Hole,' and 'Mumen Rider.'
Originally posted by Q99👆
Hm... it's kinda tough because, say, Darkshine can fight a Dragon level opponent, but does that make him Dragon level...? Him causing that much destruction is gonna be hard, since his thing is incredible defense.All S-class heroes are at least Demon, that's pretty much what defines them.
Well, here goes-
God-
Saitama, KingDragon-
Tatsumaki
Metal Knight
Bang
Atomic Samurai
Metal Bat
Pig God
Superalloy Darkshine
Possibly Sweet Mask?Demon-
Genos
Watchdog Man?
Lightspeed Flash
Child Emperor
Drive Knight
Tank Top Master
Pri-Pri Prisoner
ZombiemanWolf-
Blizzard
Atomic Samurai's three apprentices
Stinger
Lightning Max
Golden Ball
Spring Mustache
SnekEtc.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Then again, wasn't that before Garou evolved to the point where he could (sorta) challenge Saitama?Also, wasn't it part of the "joke" per-se that despite her boasting, Tornado couldn't have actually handled Boros/co. by herself? Or was I just mis-interpreting that?
You are underestimating the S-Class heroes. Though they were losing and some were fighting as pairs, they were able to put up a decent fight against the Monster Association, a league with high-level Dragon-tier Mysterious Beings. It was pretty clear that some of the S-class heroes are Dragon-level to be able to hold out that long.
I think he only began declining when he started taking damage. Before that, he was still getting more powerful.
Originally posted by U need Leonard
Okay. So the gap between S Class heroes is rather large then? Since I've noticed that you have some S in Demon and some in Dragon.
Definitely.
Like, Pri-Pri Prisoner can't damage Darkshine's muscles with his punches, and Darkshine's just in the middle of the pack.
Of course, if there's a Dragon around, having some of the Demon level S-classes for backup is normally pretty useful, but ultimately there's a gap. Garou managed to beat Tank Top pretty early on, while Darkshine was hard for him despite improving a fair amount.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah. At the low end you have guys like Prisoner, and at the top you have Tornado of Terror. There should honestly be another class made just from the higher-end S's.
Ultimately, S seems to just mean 'can handle at least Demon monsters solo.'
I think there's not the division because Dragon classes are still so rare.
Originally posted by Q99
I think he only began declining when he started taking damage. Before that, he was still getting more powerful.
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It kinda made me think Ichigo vs Aizen, frankly. Saitama said he'd weakened after he had become smaller again, enough so that the other heroes thought even they could finish him.
Re-reading the Garou fight, Garou beat up the S-classes in his first monster form, but against Saitama he revealed he could raise the strength of the body more with some martial arts methods he knew.
After *that* got beaten, he transformed into a more monstrous form, second monster form, which he seemed to view as an upgrade (crying in joy at becoming a true monster), which did look like it traded some speed for power but likely did have a ton of power and possibly armor. It got damaged, then turned into a even larger monstrous form, third monster form. Which had the greatest regen, but after taking some serious hits, he transformed into what I call 'crumbling monster form.' Where he was definitely weakening with his power leaking out.
First Monster Form may arguably be the fastest, especially when he used breathing methods to max it out, but it seemed to me like Second and Third were both upgrades in overall power.
