Originally posted by leonidas
not sure there is too much black could do to him tbh. his shields have been proof against phoenix level tp and tk, while all of mags' tricks would work on black....of course, i thought the same could be said against god cable and that got me nowhere. but i'm over it. sneer
I didn't think Blacks TP would be too effective against Mags but I wasn't sure what he'd be able to do with his TK since that's pretty impressive as well. Is it more powerful than Mags control over magnetism, idk
Originally posted by byrdgang21
I didn't think Blacks TP would be too effective against Mags but I wasn't sure what he'd be able to do with his TK since that's pretty impressive as well. Is it more powerful than Mags control over magnetism, idk
if you're asking if he could overcome mags' shields, then no. he has powerful shields himself though. mags has a lot of tricks to fall back on however, and he has basically made a career of fighting and beating the highest level psi characters in marvel....
Originally posted by leonidas
not sure there is too much black could do to him tbh. his shields have been proof against phoenix level tp and tk, while all of mags' tricks would work on black....of course, i thought the same could be said against god cable and that got me nowhere. but i'm over it. sneer
YOU SHOULD'VE WON THAT BZ!!!!! 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠
Originally posted by Delta1938
YOU SHOULD'VE WON THAT BZ!!!!! 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠
i was robbed!! that smurph is tricksy....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought that was the reason why Magneto's shields were so powerful against Xavier?Honest q, btw.
that's never been outright stated anywhere, but mag's powers have disrupted tp many times so it's a reasonable assumption. he also has his helmet and natural willpower to boot, so regardless, i don't see tp being an option against mags.
anyway, i don't think tp is em-based in dc. it's not even 100% em-based in marvel, at least not all the time. black can bash the sh!t out of mags shields (like phoenix has done) but in the end, mags would wear him out with his more exotic abilities.
Originally posted by leonidas
👆he has shown tp himself on more than one occasion, but the last time was quite awhile ago if i'm not mistaken. i think that ability has sort of gone by the wayside.... probably for the best. he's powerful enough as is.
I've only seen it specifically stating he has telepathy in SECRET WARS and bios, and always figured it was to explain his defense instead of give him another active power.
Originally posted by Delta1938
I've only seen it specifically stating he has telepathy in SECRET WARS and bios, and always figured it was to explain his defense instead of give him another active power.
i could scrounge up a couple other scans that show him using it to a small degree, and of course he can astral travel as well....
like i said, i think it's going the way of the do-do though.
Originally posted by leonidas
i could scrounge up a couple other scans that show him using it to a small degree, and of course he can astral travel as well....like i said, i think it's going the way of the do-do though.
Even if writers don't intend it that way, I'll still always think of his telepathic defense as partly because of minor telepathy.
Nowadays his helmet is described as tp proof, so it doesn't really matter either way.
Originally posted by leonidassly
i was robbed!! that smurph is tricksy....
The argument that I used for Cable (iirc...) was: his telepathy is > Xavier's, which has historically occupied all of Magneto's attention. Meanwhile, Cable has shown to output that level of telepathy and do a bajillion other things simultaneously.
I don't remember if that was the particular argument that judges bought though...
Either way, I said before that I don't think that Black measures up to Cable, and I still think that's true. Same with Black vs Cassandra Nova - I think I'd take either on as a battlezone.
As for THIS match, I think I like Magneto's odds.
Manchester Black vs Cable or Cassandra Nova BZ?
I'm game. You want it smurph?
Originally posted by Smurph
Nowadays his helmet is described as tp proof, so it doesn't really matter either way. slyThe argument that I used for Cable (iirc...) was: his telepathy is > Xavier's, which has historically occupied all of Magneto's attention. Meanwhile, Cable has shown to output that level of telepathy and do a bajillion other things simultaneously.
I don't remember if that was the particular argument that judges bought though...
Either way, I said before that I don't think that Black measures up to Cable, and I still think that's true. Same with Black vs Cassandra Nova - I think I'd take either on as a battlezone.
As for THIS match, I think I like Magneto's odds.
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