Whis vs Beerus/Champa/Goku/Vegeta

First form Frieza would kill Vegito. That's first form. Final Form wouldn't even register Vegito as a threat. Beerus is above Frieza by a high margin. No, Super Saiyan 3 Vegito will not suffice.

First form Frieza has no feats aside from shitstomping Gohan and one-shotting Kamiccolo. Those are not enough to suggest he'd deal with Vegito.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
First form Frieza has no feats aside from shitstomping Gohan and one-shotting Kamiccolo. Those are not enough to suggest he'd deal with Vegito.

Stomping Gohan who is MUCH more powerful than his mystic self. That is enough imo.

Vegito was much more powerful than Buuhan, who was much more powerful than Mystic Gohan 😎

Was he much more powerful than his mystic self? His and Piccolo'a comments made it seem he was not even close.

My theory to why he beat Ginyu was because Ginyu was not accustom to his body yet, similar to what happened when he took Goku's body.

The only explanation that makes sense: they didn't care one bit when they were making that arc, lol.

Haha yup seems about right.

Originally posted by carver9
Stomping Gohan who is MUCH more powerful than his mystic self. That is enough imo.

Since when is a Gohan who hadn't trained in over a year, and could BARELY go SSJ1, stronger than Mystic Gohan. Gohan in the track suit was weaker than he was during the World Tournament.

Base Vegetto was more powerful than Buuhan, who was stronger than a version of Buu who was over twice as strong as Super Buu. Super Buu was superior to SSJ3 Goku. Meaning that Base Vegetto was literally over 16 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku, at least.

Gohan from the ROF movie, and that saga in the anime, was barely stronger than Piccolo, maybe twice as strong as him at most. And Piccolo was only average SSJ1 level. Meaning that the Gohan that Frieza one-shotted was literally only about twice as strong as SSJ1 Goten. SSJ1 Gohan from the World Martial Arts tournament was about that strong.

Basically, we don't know how strong Final form Frieza was, and we only know that First Form Frieza was at least SSJ2 tier.

Base Vegetto was literally stronger than any character in the entirety of DBZ. Buuhan included, who was the previous two strongest characters combined, plus two other Saiyan's, and Piccolo. And Beerus had to use 10% on Vegeta in the anime.

Vegeta is one of Vegetto's parts, and is therefor much weaker. While SSJ3 Goku was weaker than SSJ2 Enraged Vegeta, there is no way that SSJ2 Vegeta became literally 64 times stronger. Which is how much stronger he would need to become to defeat Base Vegetto, as SSJ3 Goku was 4 times stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta, and Base Vegetto was at least 16 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku. SSJ2 Vegeta might have gotten like a 5X boost or something, AT MOST. So that still puts Base Vegetto comfortably in Beerus's level. And no matter what you argue, SSJ1 Vegetto would still be above even Whiss, going by the simple numbers.

However, we all know that this is not how a fight between them would go. In a canon fight, I could see SSJ1 Vegetto being equal to Whiss. But either way, SSJ1 Vegetto is still a ridiculously high contender, and I don't think you guys realize just how OP he is.

Naw

Originally posted by Amici
Naw

Yeah, I was mistaken trying to use logic to determine the strength of DBS characters.

Honestly, final form Frieza would probably one-shot Super Vegetto.

Super Vegetto from the Buu saga, that is.

Originally posted by carver9
Stomping Gohan who is MUCH more powerful than his mystic self. That is enough imo.

Far from it.

Whis wins.