Originally posted by RobtardGreater power doesn't mean greater concentration. If you feel that's the case then the onus is on you to prove it. We also see the Witch King destroy his staff and it took well over five seconds of Gandalf just sitting there and not doing anything in defense. Evidence.
Sorry, that's not supporting your statement with proof; here's why:-Those fights/encounters he was Gandalf The Grey, a weaker version than the White here
So do you have proof that Force-holding Gandalf the White (not Grey) will break his concentration?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Greater power doesn't mean greater concentration. If you feel that's the case then the onus is on you to prove it. We also see the Witch King destroy his staff and it took well over five seconds of Gandalf just sitting there and not doing anything in defense. Evidence.
Incorrect, you're using the defeats of a weaker Gandalf and saying it will be no different than his stronger self.
You'd need to prove that Gandalf the White is the same as Gandalf the Grey, but you can't, since we know The White is more powerful. You made a silly claim without support, learn from this and grow.
Originally posted by RobtardYou claimed his concentration grew in the white version so the onus is on you.
Incorrect, you're using the defeats of a weaker Gandalf and saying it will be no different than his stronger self.You need to prove that Gandalf the White is the same as Gandalf the Grey, but you can't, since we know The White is more powerful. You made a silly claim without support, learn from this and grow.
Debating 101. If you believe his concentration is greater prove it, Rey Mysterio.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You claimed his concentration grew in the white version so the onus is on you.Debating 101. If you believe his concentration is greater prove it, Rey Mysterio.
I didn't make any such claim, I pointed out that you're using the loses of a lesser character and saying they're the same as the great character. Which is a shit debating tactic you're well known for.
Might as well argue that year one Potter is the same as year seven Potter, since you're arguing that Grey and White Gandalf are the same, when we know they are not. Critical Thinking, learn it.
Originally posted by RobtardYou made the claim his concentration improved let wise of course I can use tk feats and the application of tk through the same character.
I didn't make any such claim, I pointed out that you're using the loses of a lesser character and saying they're the same. Which is a shit debating tactic you're well known for.Might as well argue that year one Potter is the same as year seven Potter, since you're arguing that Grey and White Gandalf are the same. Critical Thinking, learn it.
But let's here why you believe Gandalf is obviously more powerful than the white version. Let's hear your case.
Originally posted by quanchi112What? You really didn't watch these flicks, you keep proving that. The second and third films prove that the White is more powerful than his previous Grey incarnation. The Grey lost to Sarumon, the White defeated him with a few words.
You made the claim his concentration improved let wise of course I can use tk feats and the application of tk through the same character.But let's here why you believe Gandalf is obviously more powerful than the white version. Let's hear your case.
Let me simplify it for you, since you seem to have trouble: Gandalf the White > Gandalf the Grey
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was also hit before the fight even began. Come on this is just Gandalf the guy who donks orcs on the head with his staff.
The guy who solo'd Gimli, Legolas and Aragorn (Aragorn even had Anduril at that point in the books)... humiliated Saruman... killed Durin's Bane (even though it cost him his life).
Gandalf has also one-shotted an Olog-hai...
Originally posted by RobtardOne could also argue he had the authority to banish him from the order which he did. Authority doesn't go hand in hand with greater personal power. What abilities did he exhibit better as the white version ?
What? You really didn't watch these flicks, you keep proving that. The second and third films prove that the White is more powerful than his previous Grey incarnation. The Grey lost to Sarumon, the White defeated him with a few words.Let me simplify it for you, since you seem have trouble Gandalf the White > Gandalf the Grey
He was humiliated by the Witch King who Aragorn himself humiliated with a torch. Do you think being humiliated by the Witch King is greater than the Balrog fight ?
LoL, this simpleton. When something doesn't gel with his bias, it suddenly doesn't count.
Then there's the time he easily slapped around a bunch of Nazgul and their fellbeast while in White form. Watch the films, done explaining things to you.
To recap since you're having serious trouble: Gandalf the White > Gandalf the Grey