Originally posted by relentless1No, it isn't because of his recent actions. He viewed the Jedi as threats. He was so fearful of his wife's death so it warped him. He later killed his master and Sidious was taken completely by surprise.
Sidious getting Anakin to kill little kids is way worse than what Ren did, Sidious is still the ultimate puppet master
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't because of his recent actions. He viewed the Jedi as threats. He was so fearful of his wife's death so it warped him. He later killed his master and Sidious was taken completely by surprise.
your speaking too soon man, who's to say Ren doesnt kill Snoke in ep 9?
Originally posted by relentless1Because we see the effect it's already had on Kylo which is greater than the extent it had on Vader.
well you can't compare Vaders arc to Kylos until we've seen the entire story. How do we know if Snoke is more effective at brainwashing if we haven't seen the endgame yet?
Argue on what we know. Things can definitely change by trilogy's end. Argue on what you know not the possibilities.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because we see the effect it's already had on Kylo which is greater than the extent it had on Vader.Argue on what we know. Things can definitely change by trilogy's end. Argue on what you know not the possibilities.
I am arguing on what I've seen. Sidious got Vader to kill a roomful of children, thats way more ****ed up than Ren killing one old man. Sidious spun Anakin around until he killed kids for him to prove his loyalty to the Sith, doesnt matter the why, what matters is that he took an entire platoon into an almost deserted Jedi temple and killed all the helpless Jedi padawans and younglings that were in there. On Sidious' command.
Originally posted by relentless1
I am arguing on what I've seen. Sidious got Vader to kill a roomful of children, thats way more ****ed up than Ren killing one old man. Sidious spun Anakin around until he killed kids for him to prove his loyalty to the Sith, doesnt matter the why, what matters is that he took an entire platoon into an almost deserted Jedi temple and killed all the helpless Jedi padawans and younglings that were in there. On Sidious' command.
Spoiler:
He killed his own father who loved and wanted to help him. Vader failed to allow Sidious to kill his son in his own presence. Snoke's seduction was all over him and he didn't even have to be there. The Jedi were threats to him. Luke wasn't. Han wasn't. Kylo killed his father. Vader rejected the emperor in favor of his son.