Originally posted by DarthAnt66As if Revan hasn't used the Force in dueling range when fighting a **** ton of guys on multiple occasions. Or he doesn't have shit like Teleportation which he's used in combat situations before.
Tell me when has he TKed anyone on Dooku's level before, let alone amped Dooku.
More than ragdolling Marr / Shan / Beniko around before temporarily severing their connection to the Force and ability to move and slowly killing to death? Nah.
Marr and Shan are old and out of shape by that point and likely haven't been in a duel in years. Beniko is hardly impressive.
And the point of the "2004" reference was that it was written before Ventress was that impressive. We see them fight in TCW on multiple occasions and that type of domination suggested doesn't hold.
That's not true at all. Even "2004" Ventress was dispatching Masters like Kit Fisto rather easily and giving Mid-Late CWs Anakin good enough fights to scar him over his eye. Either way that's not how Legends goes. You take the whole pie or not at all.
"With his humanity long forgotten and his face unseen, Marr's inner thoughts are impossible to determine. But his desire to leave a strong Empire behind him is unquestioned, and his abilities are second to none."
Isn't there also a similar quote about all Dark Council members? Not to mention one flimsy quote is hardly enough to put him above the False Emperor.
And that quote's referring to "the ancient one far past his prime."
Lol get those hyperbolic quotes out of my face. By that logic his abilities are superior to the Wrath, HoT, and indeed Vitiate himself.
Tell me when has he TKed anyone on Dooku's level before, let alone amped Dooku.
- The protagonist multiple times, albeit not complete ragdolling.
- Darth Marr, with it being complete rapeage and ragdolling.
- Vitiate, who was amped though his power / attention diverted.
There's three. I'll also add in Shan since she's not that far beyond.
Successfully using TK on Marr + Shan + Beniko at the same time is proof he can do it to Dooku alone.
Marr and Shan are old and out of shape by that point and likely haven't been in a duel in years. Beniko is hardly impressive.
Marr was in a duel and raped his apprentice only like a couple years prior.
Shan says she's not the warrior she once was but that doesn't mean she's not as powerful.
Beniko later resisted Vitiate's dispersed mental powers and has galactic-ranged sense powers.
That's not true at all. Even "2004" Ventress was dispatching Masters like Kit Fisto rather easily and giving Mid-Late CWs Anakin good enough fights to scar him over his eye. Either way that's not how Legends goes. You take the whole pie or not at all.
Even if we do take into consideration Dooku's Ventress feat, it's not more impressive than ragdolling the reigning Dark Council leader and Grand Jedi Master, like come on. 😬
Isn't there also a similar quote about all Dark Council members? Not to mention one flimsy quote is hardly enough to put him above the False Emperor.
Lol get those hyperbolic quotes out of my face. By that logic his abilities are superior to the Wrath, HoT, and indeed Vitiate himself.
Marr is the head of the Sphere of Defense, and the quote says:
"Tales spread through the Republic of the masked Dark Council member who routed whole armies and deflected assaults more thoroughly than any planetary shield."
―Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia
I'm pretty sure it's in reference to tactical ability and army command tbh
Oh but Ant, the New Essential Chronology, Dark Rendevous, and The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia seem to support your POV on the Geonosis fight.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Okay, well, hmmm...- The protagonist multiple times, albeit not complete ragdolling.
Gameplay isn't canon even in Legends.
- Darth Marr, with it being complete rapeage and ragdolling.
Not even close to Dooku.
- Vitiate, who was amped though his power / attention diverted.
Vitiate whose defenses were down you mean?
There's three. I'll also add in Shan since she's not that far beyond.
Shan isn't even on the level of Dooku's rancor leather boots.
Proof Marr and Shan are out of shape?
"Throughout his tenure on the Dark Council, Darth Marr's body slowly transformed as a result of immersion in the dark side of the Force, and by the time war broke out again with the Republic the Sith Lord was aware that his body would not last much longer."- SWTOR Encyclopedia (sourced on the wookiepedia)
And Satele flat out says she's not as good as she used to be.
Marr was in a duel and raped his apprentice only like a couple years prior.
His apprentice got wrecked by a mid-game Barsen'thor. Not impressed.
Shan says she's not the warrior she once was but that doesn't mean she's not as powerful.
That's exactly what that means.
Beniko later resisted Vitiate's dispersed mental powers and has galactic-ranged sense powers.
Which speaks nothing for her combat prowess.
Or I can dismiss the performance against Ventress since updated and higher-canon material have shown Ventress holding her own and landing successful TK attacks.Even if we do take into consideration Dooku's Ventress feat, it's not more impressive than ragdolling the reigning Dark Council leader and Grand Jedi Master, like come on. 😬
Considering both of them have zero feats and the casual nature of Dooku's feat it is very impressive. I'm not even saying Dooku defeats Revan, I simply think its retarded to suggest he gets stomped by him.
No.
It does say the Dark Councilors are the strongest Sith in the galaxy...which is nonsense because well look at Vowrawn.
*smacks the quote that says Marr has better defensive abilities than any planetary shield in Stark's face*
ROTS novel also states that Dooku is a "Dark Colossus bestriding the Galaxy", I suppose he's a galactic entity now with his enormous penis rubbing up against the core worlds.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Marr is the head of the Sphere of Defense, and the quote says:"Tales spread through the Republic of the masked Dark Council member who routed whole armies and deflected assaults more thoroughly than any planetary shield."
―Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia
Eh, nah. Marr was renowned for "personally leading charges against Republic defenders" and was deemed a "terrifying warrior."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Eh, nah. Marr was renowned for "personally leading charges against Republic defenders" and was deemed a "terrifying warrior."
My penis leads the charge against Ant. It is terrifying as well and its visage makes plebes like yourself weep in jealousy and commit suicide.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Eh, nah. Marr was renowned for "personally leading charges against Republic defenders" and was deemed a "terrifying warrior."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Wasn't it from the Darth Marr codex entry? 😬
Which you get on Makeb: http://www.swtor-spy.com/codex/darth-marr/91655/