The Code is about the risks, not the certainties. It's not 'it always goes wrong', it's 'the risk of things going totally wrong and people being hurt is too great'.
That's exactly what has happened. Even Luke was only putting right something that a Code break made go totally wrong. I have a vague theory that the Skywalker line is effectively cursed, and that's why Luke has withdrawn.
The thing with Luke is that they say he's gone because he feels responsible- but that seems incomplete; that's a poor reason to abandon the Republic to planet-killing weapons again, and also if that's the reason, why look for him? What's changed? What can Leia say to him now that she didn't before?
But Luke has left clues to be found- this feels like a 'I have to withdraw until the right time' kind of deal. Waiting for the right moment (or person) fits that; Luke things (possibly correctly) that any attempt he makes to restore the Jedi will fail. This could tie in to the whole 'Force Awakens' thing. It also means Rey can be meaningful without necessarily being his daughter.
Or she is. There are just possibilities.
agreed that it doesn't make a lot of sense for luke to abandon the republic, since he essentially left it to fall prey to the dark side agents which he had direct knowledge of. it would have made sense if snoke managed to blind him as palps did with the old jedi, but of course that's thoroughly not the case. i hope there is more to luke's decision than just "ah **** it all".
and yes, it could be that in his advanced force abilities, he was clairvoyant enough to forsee rey's destiny and left her a trail of breadcrumbs to the ancient jedi temple via R2 and his lightsaber. no bloodline required, there.
Well, my bet is that she is not related. And I think it is by far the best the best option. It doesn't tie the character down, there's a certain freedom. If only to "correct" the awkward family relationship between Luke and Leia.
I might just consider, if done well, that there is a redemption of Kylo and Rey and Kylo get hitched... but even that, for me, is taking it a tad far. But again, if done well, I might buy it.
All those weird "need-to-have" connections (like R2 being Luke's mom's droid, 3PO being the droid Luke's dad made, Luke and Leia being siblings) that is George Lucas. I seem to clearly see TFA is departing from those kinds of coincidental/convenient/awkward relationships.
This is an interesting read..
And it still is if Rey is not related. There is after all Kylo Ren/Ben Solo. So the Skywalker saga does continue, we don't need Rey for that.
Watched the movie again, and it is very clear neither Kylo nor Snoke were there when Rey was left behind on Jakku. It's Unkar Plutt we hear and you can clearly see his puffy, reddish hand. So for some reason Rey's left behind in the hands of this not-really-to-be-trusted junk dealer. Why, we have no idea. But if Luke did that, then it's kinda mean.
Nope, I seriously doubt Rey's a Skywalker. It is her the Force awakens in.
Very likely Luke's daughter I feel, among the many other points (her significance to Ren, the visions, disappearing parents, waking R2, and of course the trailer) the fact that the Skywalker lightsaber springs into her hand instead of Ren's is very telling.
Rey isn't more powerful than Ren at this point, so its obvious that the lightsaber is in someway attuned to her. The Star Wars Databank says:
At the heart of every Jedi lightsaber is a kyber crystal found on several planets, most notably the icebound caves of Ilum. This crystal is attuned to the Force, and connected to a Jedi Knight on a deeply personal level.
Ergo. only someone connected to the weapon on a "deeply personal level" is going to be attuned to it. Naturally being a Skywalker would afford that, and being a "random" wouldn't. The lightsaber has responded to her twice over now whereas it doesn't respond to Ben, a Skywalker himself, who should have - as he says - a greater claim to it than her. Unless of course her blood ties run even deeper, i.e. she is Luke's daughter.
I'm thinking now that she's directly related to the Skywalkers but not in the conventional way. I.e. She's a clone of Luke or Anakin Skywalker.
Obviously then her parents that she was waiting for would just be the people who raised her and kept her secret.
I mean she seems to have an idea of what her parents look like. And she's heard of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo, but didn't for a second think she's related to either of them. But then she obviously had some connection with Anakin/Luke's Saber. Plus she's clearly very very strong in the force.
So yeah I'm going with the Clone theory.
Originally posted by queeqIt's pretty simple, the lightsaber that belonged to Luke Skywalker is now calling out to his daughter, because of a family connection.
Well, I doubt we get the crystal theory anywhere explained in the SW movies. And since SW is a simple story I think it will be something like the Force using the sabre to bring Rey to Luke to be trained. No more than that.
The possibility of the Force acting through the lightsaber because she is some kind of Chosen One? Possible but pretty contrived, it's not as if the lightsaber actually had anything to do with her finding Luke, and she could have discovered the Force in another way.
Originally posted by Darth ThorNot sure if serious...
I'm thinking now that she's directly related to the Skywalkers but not in the conventional way. I.e. She's a clone of Luke or Anakin Skywalker.Obviously then her parents that she was waiting for would just be the people who raised her and kept her secret.
I mean she seems to have an idea of what her parents look like. And she's heard of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo, but didn't for a second think she's related to either of them. But then she obviously had some connection with Anakin/Luke's Saber. Plus she's clearly very very strong in the force.
So yeah I'm going with the Clone theory.
Originally posted by UshgarakIt didn't seem to me like Luke's intent was to permanently stay hidden, but rather, to withdraw until he could find the answers he was looking for(ergo venturing to the eldest Jedi Temple.) Though it is entirely possible that he already received said answers, and subsequently opted to stay hidden as a result..? Dunno. Either way, he definitely left a means to be found. That is undoubtedly an important point to note.
The thing with Luke is that they say he's gone because he feels responsible- but that seems incomplete; that's a poor reason to abandon the Republic to planet-killing weapons again, and also if that's the reason, why look for him? What's changed? What can Leia say to him now that she didn't before?But Luke has left clues to be found- this feels like a 'I have to withdraw until the right time' kind of deal. Waiting for the right moment (or person) fits that; Luke things (possibly correctly) that any attempt he makes to restore the Jedi will fail. This could tie in to the whole 'Force Awakens' thing. It also means Rey can be meaningful without necessarily being his daughter.
Or she is. There are just possibilities.
My question, though:
Why would they just send Rey to contact him? If she is supposedly a brand new character with unknown lineage, why do they think Luke would respond well to her? That alone alludes to her having some sort of preexisting story with Luke, imo.
And did anyone else notice that the landscape Kylo saw when he probed Rey's mind was very similar to the planet Luke was found on(ie. a large body of water with a single island)..?