Thor and Sentry vs Superman and Shazam

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
The Void would probably tear the Hulk in 2. And then leave to kill the others around him.

Referencing the WWH arc I am of the belief that Sentry was somewhat hampered by his Agoraphobia and was thereby unstable and to at least some degree weakened. He was pushed to the edge with no other choice (either stay in his house or watch everyone die). So he left the house to attack the Hulk.

And due to his mental instability being what it was at that moment he lost control of the energy he normally keeps inside him and just let it rip, with no control (as he mentioned he couldn't seem to stop). In short a weakened (to some degree) unstable Sentry who was going no holds barred with his power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We both agree that the Void would have raped the Hulk so you agree it does make a difference.

We agree that the Void would have defeated the Hulk, correct. What I'm not sure on is your second part of your post where you say I apparently agree it makes a difference.

Would you be able to help me on that part please? Thanks.

Quanshee means that he wants you to be in complete agreement that Void would rape Hulk.

As in, tentacles in the ass, finishing, cumming on his face etc.

He's masturbating as we speak.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
We agree that the Void would have defeated the Hulk, correct. What I'm not sure on is your second part of your post where you say I apparently agree it makes a difference.

Would you be able to help me on that part please? Thanks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He always runs the risk of mentally coming unraveled. In siege that's the reason he allowed himself to be defeated. The helicarrier spurred something loose it was not due to the power of the attack. One undeniable advantage the Void has is that he's far more ruthless than the Sentry.

Okay thanks for explaining (I have a problem understanding sentences sometimes).

I'm definitely with you on the Void being much more ruthless. He doesn't care about anybody he hurts. And I agree with you on the other parts you said in this reply too.

The only thing I could add is that he can be in a better mental state than some other times (like Sentry Vol 2 for example). Not meaning this part as a argument against you but just adding it in.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Quanshee means that he wants you to be in complete agreement that Void would rape Hulk.

As in, tentacles in the ass, finishing, cumming on his face etc.

He's masturbating as we speak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void has better showings, is more ruthless, and is more competent.

Not really and it doesn't matter as both are just a side-effect of Robert Reynolds' ability to rewrite the reality.

This is a nice example of the Void. He didn't even notice these heros and was just walking through them like nothing. He really wasn't even fighting them to be honest. If that Void were to actually concentrate on stopping a character like Thor, Superman, Shazam, Hulk, etc, they would be powerless to stop him. The Void in Siege was kind of weak sauce to be honest.

Originally posted by tkitna
This is a nice example of the Void. He didn't even notice these heros and was just walking through them like nothing. He really wasn't even fighting them to be honest. If that Void were to actually concentrate on stopping a character like Thor, Superman, Shazam, Hulk, etc, they would be powerless to stop him. The Void in Siege was kind of weak sauce to be honest.

To be honest I think in SIEGE, the Void wasn't even able to fully take over Roberts body because of Robert holding him off. So the Void couldn't act at full carnage. Then you see in the Sun Robert had full control as the Void couldn't win over. Although it's fair to say that he was still very uber in SIEGE, just not to his full capacity.

But in that situation you showed Robert was hysterical and had no idea what to do. The Void had free reign there.

Also as a side note I love Steve McNiven's art. He's probably one of my favourites out of all artists. He managed to capture Robert's facial expressions really well. And in general made all the characters look nice.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Do I really need to post speed feats of Shazam? Like keeping up with fighting Superman, casually flying FTL to reach the Rock of Eternity, tagging and fighting a bloodlusted Spectre, catching up to Barry Allen when he was running fast enough to kill himself, etc.?

And he's taken hits from Superman before, as well as defeated and outmatched Black Adam's durability, the same Black Adam that has literally flown through a bloodlusted Spectre before.

And it kinda does matter. Just like it matters that Superman tanked punches from the Hulk without even flinching, until the Hulk passed out from exhaustion.

The only Marvel characters that are above DC characters are the celestial/abstract beings. The meta's, superhumans, gods, etc, are all weak-sauce compared to DC high meta's.

😂

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
To be honest I think in SIEGE, the Void wasn't even able to fully take over Roberts body because of Robert holding him off.

I agree 100%

But in that situation you showed Robert was hysterical and had no idea what to do. The Void had free reign there.

That's what I'm saying. If Bob were to just finally let go, things would go to hell in a handbasket real fast.

Also as a side note I love Steve McNiven's art. He's probably one of my favourites out of all artists. He managed to capture Robert's facial expressions really well. And in general made all the characters look nice.

Yeah, he's awesome.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Not really and it doesn't matter as both are just a side-effect of Robert Reynolds' ability to rewrite the reality.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void definitely has the better showings. It's about mindset and the void has the superior mindset.

Nooo.

Sentry has always defeated The Void.

I'm too lazy to quote his feats.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nooo.

Sentry has always defeated The Void.

I'm too lazy to quote his feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Becsuse it is a battle within himself. Against others Void is far more dangerous. I've said this from the beginning.

Nope.

His powers makes them real so that's definitely not within himself.

Robert believes that he is the Void and The Sentry appears to beat him.

Both are physical incarnations despite the fact that they probably are psionic entities and that Robert continues to believe that he needs a body at that point.

The Sentry is to Robert what the Fury is to Mad Jim Jaspers BUT the Sentry is a part of himself too (there is own life force in it).

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nope.

His powers makes them real so that's definitely not within himself.

Robert believes that he is the Void and The Sentry appears to beat him.

Both are physical incarnations despite the fact that they probably are psionic entities and that Robert continues to believe that he needs a body at that point.

The Sentry is to Robert what the Fury is to Mad Jim Jaspers BUT the Sentry is a part of himself too (there is own life force in it).

Void loses because he decides he loses. Void has superior showings and is more ruthless and has demonstrated greater power, formidability.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is waging a battle within himself and has talked to himself staring in a mirror before.

Void loses because he decides he loses. Void has superior showings and is more ruthless and has demonstrated greater power, formidability.

The Void is an unwilling transformation...

Robert Reynolds become the Void when he has a schyzophrenic crisis and then the Sentry appears as a separated entity to counter him.

It's already precised in the comics that the fight is physical.

Void hasn't superior showings...

The fight between Sentry & Genis-Vell or Sentry & Molecule Man far outclasses everything that the Void already shown but...

It doesn't matter as both are Robert Reynolds and just psionic constructs.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The Void is an unwilling transformation...

Robert Reynolds become the Void when he has a schyzophrenic crisis and then the Sentry appears as a separated entity to counter him.

It's already precised in the comics that the fight is physical.

Void hasn't superior showings...

The fight between Sentry & Genis-Vell or Sentry & Molecule Man far outclasses everything that the Void already shown but...

It doesn't matter as both are Robert Reynolds and just psionic constructs.

The void was in control against the Molecule Man. Actually read the comics don't look at the scans. Sentry and Genis is overrated.

Void is superior against the heroes. Yes, it does. Your ignorance on this is another matter altogether.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It depends on his mindset.

The void was in control against the Molecule Man. Actually read the comics don't look at the scans. Sentry and Genis is overrated.

Void is superior against the heroes. Yes, it does. Your ignorance on this is another matter altogether.

It wasn't the Void, it was Sentry...

He was using white speech bubbles and he asked Owen to bring back people...

Anyway, according to Bendis, there is always a bit of the Void when Sentry is here and vice-versa, like the Yin and the Yang. Even if the Void is just the manifestation of a mental disease, he is the personnification of Robert's dark side and the Sentry is the complete opposite.

By the way I'm probably the man whom knows the Sentry the most on the internet whatever some people are claiming they chosen to ignore that Robet is actually on par with HOM Wanda when it comes to his raw psionic power and ability to manipulate the reality.

Sentry and Genis isn't overrated. There is really few characters in Marvel whom could be able to replicate that feat and even less about Molecule Man.

Void isn't superior on the slightest...
Sentry has actually one-shotted opponents before and the Void isn't more powerful than him.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
It wasn't the Void, it was Sentry...

He was using white speech bubbles and he asked Owen to bring back people...

Anyway, according to Bendis, there is always a bit of the Void when Sentry is here and vice-versa, like the Yin and the Yang. Even if the Void is just the manifestation of a mental disease, he is the personnification of Robert's dark side and the Sentry is the complete opposite.

By the way I'm probably the man whom knows the Sentry the most on the internet whatever some people are claiming they chosen to ignore that Robet is actually on par with HOM Wanda when it comes to his raw psionic power and ability to manipulate the reality.

Sentry and Genis isn't overrated. There is really few characters in Marvel whom could be able to replicate that feat and even less about Molecule Man.

Void isn't superior on the slightest...
Sentry has actually one-shotted opponents before and the Void isn't more powerful than him.

What makes you say that?