Originally posted by Robtard
Your question was silly and not comparable; it's purpose was to troll. We have statistics that show how gun control can work and we have miles of data showing that man-made/effected climate change is a thing.While the logistics of said wall show it's both futile and nigh impossible in the current climate. We also have China's Great Wall as an example, it didn't work; the Mongols invaded.
The more you know 👆
Statistics that are taken from HIGHLY Doubtful sources. Aka bent to push the agenda that a select elite wishes to get across. And a wall built here could stem the flow from millions to possibly a few thousand or less.
Yes I know that would put a stop to the new Democrat Voting base so we shouldn't try.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I didn't attack you. Quit making things up.
You ignored my on-topic question and made a dismissive snarky comment.
If you think Trump's wall is actually a good idea and feasible, you could sell your points on it. <--- Seriously, sell me on it with reason and substance
(Personally, I don't think Trump buys it himself, he's likely smarter than that; if not, I'm sure there are smart enough people who work for him; which detailed what a futile attempt it would be. It's just a talking point for his campaign, imo.)
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
They have tunnels that can bypass walls. I don't believe a wall would work either for the reasons already stated. We'd need a force field that would even extend below ground, but that technology does not exist yet. I'm not sure how to solve the problem, but we do need to beef up security more.
Exactly. Regardless if you welcome all immigrants with open arms or if you think they should all be sent packing, a poorly thought out idea is just that, poor.
Originally posted by Robtard
You ignored my on-topic question and made a dismissive snarky comment.If you think Trump's wall is actually a good idea and feasible, you could sell your points on it. <--- Seriously, sell me on it with reason and substance
(Personally, I don't think Trump buys it himself, he's likely smarter than that; if not, I'm sure there are smart enough people who work for him; which detailed what a futile attempt it would be. It's just a talking point for his campaign, imo.)
My bad.
Jobs for Americans, probably most of them will be Mexicans and minorities since the area, and populace that makes up the construction work force.
Increase national security.
Keeping out not only illegal Mexicans, but Chinese that sneak across and South and Central Americans.
Controlling immigration numbers.
Cut down on illegal arms, drug, human trade.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
My bad.Jobs for Americans, probably most of them will be Mexicans and minorities since the area, and populace that makes up the construction work force.
Increase national security.
Keeping out not only illegal Mexicans, but Chinese that sneak across and South and Central Americans.
Controlling immigration numbers.
Cut down on illegal arms, drug, human trade.
That's all good if it could feasibly work. The problems:
-Paying for the build (Mexico won't do it, so it will be us, the US taxpayer)
-Paying for the upkeep, which would be tremendous. A fence/wall doesn't work if parts of it are broken
-Paying for the staffing which would be tremendous, as it would require enough people to patrol thousand+ miles. Since the immigrants will quickly realize which sections are not patrolled and exploit said weaknesses (like they currently do)
-As T&S mentioned, tunnels negate the wall, so we have to constantly be on the lookout for said tunnels and pay construction crews to demolish them, along with security personal to protect said crews as gun-runners would not take kindly to one of their tunnels being TNT'd; that's more tax dollars towards the wall's upkeep
So I ask and I do so politely, how does this seem like a good idea, considering the above? It has nothing to do with loving/hating immigrants. It's simply a logistics thing.
The U.S. Has enough money for whatever it needs.
The useless war has cost us 4-8 trillion. No one really knows. And supposedly the liberals here say the economy is doing amazing.👆
If we can afford that, we can afford a wall.
I don't buy the "We can't afford it."
It seems liberals scream that only when it's something they don't agree with it.
Moving on.
You build it 100 ft tall, and 100 ft deep or deeper, who cares how deep, just deep enough to stop tunneling.
Once the wall is up it will require less border patrol people getting hurt and killed in the field.
So if it only saves one life, sounds good to me.
Tax dollars spent on infrastructure, jobs and security is never a waste of money.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The U.S. Has enough money for whatever it needs.The useless war has cost us 4-8 trillion. No one really knows. And supposedly the liberals here say the economy is doing amazing.👆
If we can afford that, we can afford a wall.
I don't buy the "We can't afford it."
It seems liberals scream that only when it's something they don't agree with it.
Moving on.
You build it 100 ft tall, and 100 ft deep or deeper, who cares how deep, just deep enough to stop tunneling.
Once the wall is up it will require less border patrol people getting hurt and killed in the field.
So if it only saves one life, sounds good to me.
Tax dollars spent on infrastructure, jobs and security is never a waste of money.
Ignoring the cost (which is silly, imo). There's still the issue that people would get through:
-The longest smuggling tunnel from Mexico to the US was over 2,000 feet
-100 foot height will not stop people if the wall isn't patrolled. They'll use ropes, makeshift ladders, crave foot/hand holds etc.
-The longer the wall; the more border patrol it will require if you actually want it to work, so it'd have the opposite affect, more people potentially hurt
It's just not feasible.
2000ft long, not deep👆
This is America, anything is possible.
I don't like your lazy attitude.
So it's going to require more people to patrol the same amount of area😂
That's not only illogical but stupid.
Rob, you never been in the military or any police force, how on earth can you make such crazy claims?
Trump asn't even said how tall it will be but I'm guessing 100-200ft, and no one is making it over with makeshift ladders😂
Climbing 20ft on a ladder is scratchy enough, much less 100..
Do you even do house work?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
2000ft long, not deep👆This is America, anything is possible.
I don't like your lazy attitude.
So it's going to require more people to patrol the same amount of area😂
That's not only illogical but stupid.
Rob, you never been in the military or any police force, how on earth can you make such crazy claims?
Try,p hasn't even said how tall it will be but I'm guessing 100-200ft, and no one is making it over with makeshift ladders😂
Buddy, a 2,000ft long tunnel would go under a 100ft deep wall
If you want the wall to actually work, it will require massive patrolling
Cos I can read
Why not make it over 700ft tall, made of ice and have convicted criminals guard it, while we're at it?
Not trying to piss in your cereal, but Trump's wall is just not realistic
Originally posted by Robtard
Buddy, a 2,000ft long tunnel would go under a 100ft deep wallIf you want the wall to actually work, it will require massive patrolling
Cos I can read
Why not make it over 700ft tall, made of ice and have convicted criminals guard it, while we're at it?
Not trying to piss in your cereal, but Trump's wall is just not realistic
Have you ever even climbed a ladder?